If I bring too many people from SB over, it'll end up pulling this site into the ASVS vs SB war.
Long-story-short, ASVS is inhabited by Star Wars fans that have the idea that the Empire cannot be beaten. They harass SB every so often because SB has superior proof of their wrongs, and SB has their own movies
Lately, it's come to the point that if ASVS tries anything, we at SB pull out the Shivans, Culture, SSJ2 Gohan, Ultra-Perfect Cell, and SSJ4 Goku. They really had their pride smashed when we told them how powerful Cell is, and that the rest are evern more powerful