[Wanderer]

Not to mention that CMs' have limited area (volume, radius, take your pick) of effectiveness as well as limited lifetime. If a missile is beyond CM's range it will ignore it. Also with heat seekers if the missile wont reach the CM (and hit it) before CM dies it will try to acquire a new target (which may be the previous one).

[NGTM-1R]

If a CM didn't work, most likely explanation is that it never made contact with an incoming missile's homing cone. When you launch a countermeasure, you also turn sharp to another direction don't you? So does the missile and homing cone with it, meaning the missile's homing cone never made contact with the CM you launched.

If I was in a situation where evasion was a simpler option, I wouldn't be launching countermeasures. I only used them before the merge or when on an attack run against a larger ship. I wasn't evading. Typically it was launch countermeasure, pause one and a half seconds, launch second countermeasure if I still had a missile warning.

A second was always effective. But a first only worked about 80% of the time.

[Kolgena]

I also noticed with a new nightly build that dual firing missiles sometimes means that the target's CM will only trail off one missile, and the other one will still track and hit. It's kind of cool to watch, and definitely not behavior I've seen before.

Potentially due to this new CM fix you guys are talking about?

[The E]

Yep, that's exactly it. Personally, I think it looks damn awesome.

[Commander Zane]

No wonder I can't spoof Piranah clusters anymore.

[Fury]

Exactly. Didn't you ever wonder why Piranha/Infyrno type weapons were so damn useless? Now you need to actually do some evasive maneuvers and waste those CM's.

[Kolgena]

How does this affect Infyrnos? O.o

[Dragon]

It doesn't, Infyrno is an area effect weapon, not a smart suspression missile.

[Commander Zane]

Exactly. Didn't you ever wonder why Piranha/Infyrno type weapons were so damn useless? Now you need to actually do some evasive maneuvers and waste those CM's.

I figured they were useless because all it usually took was afterburning past them to get rid of them, now even then that seems harder to do.

[Thaeris]

It doesn't, Infyrno is an area effect weapon, not a smart suspression missile.

I looked at the missile specs a few days earlier on the Wiki... Supposedly the Infyrno spawns IR-guided "cluster babies." Is it just that they launch really fast and explode really fast, thus preventing them from effectively tracking anything?

...Or, is there some other mechanic which makes them work the way they do?

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Exactly. Didn't you ever wonder why Piranha/Infyrno type weapons were so damn useless? Now you need to actually do some evasive maneuvers and waste those CM's.

Does that make these two missiles the terror that they should be in the first place?

[Commander Zane]

I don't know, Piranhas still seem to be pushovers.
Infyrnos...well if anything ever used them...

[Androgeos Exeunt]

There was this one time I killed a Dragon in a Herc II (or an Ares, I can't remember) with Infyrnos. Unfortunately, I also managed to take out 50% of my hull in the process.

[Killer Whale]

imagine an infyrno that spawned infyrnos...

[ChronoReverse]

I'd like to fire a piranha that spawned piranhas =D

[Commander Zane]

I sort of did both of that already, usually crashes the game but it's funny watching it until that happens.
Check the Celebration of FreeSpace thread for them.

[Iranon]

Infyrnos can easily take out an entire wing of Dragons, without blowing yourself up. On the other hand... if you miss, you will end up in a dogfight your craft wasn't designed for.

[Commander Zane]

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=25406.msg1215644#msg1215644
Here's that page with the infinite Piranhas and Infyrnos, except they're Synaptics and Cluster Bombs, halfway down the page.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

I sort of did both of that already, usually crashes the game but it's funny watching it until that happens.
Check the Celebration of FreeSpace thread for them.

Didn't someone also modify the spew from a Piranha such that it spawned multiple SSLs and became a giant disco ball of doom?

[Thaeris]

Oh goodness, that's got JAD written all over it!