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It's "can" and "not", not "cannot", this is why there's "can't".
11 (23.9%)
It was my birthday yesterday, everyday, and everymonth.
4 (8.7%)
Foreign language words in scrabble is cheating.
9 (19.6%)
Shudup!
3 (6.5%)
LOL is a word and should be spoken out loud.
4 (8.7%)
i DO'NT Need NO gRAMMARZ OR, NO SPELLIGNS?
4 (8.7%)
today, i helped my uncle jack off a horse.
2 (4.3%)
Snuffleupagus
9 (19.6%)

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Offline S-99

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The english language getting crazy
This is one of the things i hate about the new millenium. Why is "everyday" one word when it should be two? Why is "cannot" one word when it should be two. Why is "into" one word when it should be two? If "into" is a word, then why not have the opposite being "outof" (combination of "out" and "of")?

This can only lead up to the fact that eventually that the combination of "some" and "day" will become "someday", and so on with other words.

It's a no **** reasoning behind why the english language is difficult to learn for those who don't speak it natively with words like froggy, iffy, and ****y. Too many words for describing someones current feeling and or situation. In other languages, do people need a word for ****y? I'd say no, and with that, instead of saying ****y, that person would just give a more brief detailing of how they are or a situation went (or they'd just say badly).

There's a lot of illiterates with bad spelling and bad speaking abilities helping to perpetuate this. Thank you american public schooling. It gets worse of course with my feelings about the english dictionary adopting abbreviations such as "lol" and "brb". THEY AREN'T WORDS! SAYING THEM ALOUD NOT AS ABBREVIATIONS MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A RETARD!

It does get worse. Snickerdoodle is in my mom's 1960's webster's dictionary. IT'S NOT A WORD! IT'S A ****ING RECIPE! LOOK IT UP IN A RECIPE BOOK! That's ok, it gets even worse for non words ending up in the dictionary. NAACP, GOP, etc. Now you have organizations popping up in the dictionary too. Yet again, the name of an organization is not a word, it's made up of many words. So don't use a dictionary, try an encyclopedia for snickerdoodle and organizations and other crap.

The day when "fo'shizzle my nizzle" enters the dictionary will be a landmark dumbification.
I am in no way perfect my self (note on how i didn't type "myself"), but this is **** i've noticed for a while, and the breaking point is coming for me. And of course, not all of this is stuff that has resulted in last century and the current century, some of it's been around for a long time.
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Re: The english language getting crazy
OH REALMENTE?
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We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own

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Re: The english language getting crazy
QUE?

I abstained from voting since there are no funny options.
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Re: The english language getting crazy
Um..."cannot" and "into" are waaaaaay older than the year 2000(/1).  "Someday" already exists.  And there's no good reason why "everyday" shouldn't be one word.

Seriously, I have no idea what the hell you're talking about here.

 

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Re: The english language getting crazy
cannot is a word.
foreign languages are cheating in scrabble.
and internet shorthand should not be said aloud.
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Re: The english language getting crazy
English, like all languages, evolves.  It doesn't stay the same.  There is a natural push towards simplification right now... as English has absorbed a whole bunch of other languages over the centuries and evolved into it's modern form.  Because it is spoken in so many locations across the world... it is going to have some natural changes. Not all of them make sense and not all of those changes will survive the test of time.  Some will. Some crazy English rules are as a result of absorbing bits of other languages... some of that has to be worked out.  Slowly or in fits.
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Re: The english language getting crazy
I use cannot more often than can't, in conversation.  I also use lots and lots of little tiny blurbs from random languages I picked up, even though I don't use those in scrabble.  Depending on the company, I might actually say lol.

  

Offline S-99

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Re: The english language getting crazy
Well i know some of this stuff has beenaround for centuries. My understanding of cannot is that it's two words, not one. What'sthe logic behind cannot when you have the same thing by placing a space between can and not.

What'sup with combining two words as one? In the end you end up with some words that you aren't sure is even normally a two word combination. Theway i see it, is combination words like into is actually in and to.

I picked up the scrabble cheating thing the other day. My mom plays a lot of multiplayer scrabble over the internet daily. One dude from some part of the world beat her by using a yiddish word. It made methink of how ridiculous scrabble is with the scrabble dictionary. Scrabble has elevated beyond the status of requiring a dictionary for allowed words since basically now all words are from i guessyou could say all languages sincethe scrabble dictionary keeps expanding at a retarded rate. Whyuse it any more?

It's just time to deal withthis. NAACP is a word, and cannot is just one word and not actually two in usage and understanding. :doubt:


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Re: The english language getting crazy
I've had it drilled into me that double prepositions are bad. So if "into" were really "in to," then there would be no correct way to say it. :(

 

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Re: The english language getting crazy
Every day and everyday are two different things used in two different situations.

You go into work every day but you are an everyday worker.

 

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Re: The english language getting crazy
English, like all languages, evolves.  It doesn't stay the same.  There is a natural push towards simplification right now... as English has absorbed a whole bunch of other languages over the centuries and evolved into it's modern form.  Because it is spoken in so many locations across the world... it is going to have some natural changes. Not all of them make sense and not all of those changes will survive the test of time.  Some will. Some crazy English rules are as a result of absorbing bits of other languages... some of that has to be worked out.  Slowly or in fits.
What I'm actually a bit surprised about is that, after all of the foreign words absorbed from other languages, that modern English school programs still leave out the various diacritics in common words as well as appropriate gender adaptions. For example, noël, déjà vu, fiancé(e) [I can't tell you how many times I've heard a woman say "This is my fiancée"], et cetera. Not every diacritic needs to be looked over, but common diacritics seen in Romance and High Germanic languages SHOULD be covered; the majority of loan-words are from these languages.
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Re: The english language getting crazy
Compound words. Learn them.
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Re: The english language getting crazy
Wait until texting becomes standard.  There are already classes in schools where students are allowed to write using it. 

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Re: The english language getting crazy
Wait until texting becomes standard.  There are already classes in schools where students are allowed to write using it.  



A deep sense of insecurity and unrest just came over me here... By texting --- do u mean ppl who write lyk dis? Or do you mean the stupid self-correcting dictionaries where you type the letters that a word contains, and it'll pick it up from there? That makes me angry.

Anyway, the one thing that can irk me is people writing words like they sound when spoken. What = wot. You = u, stuff like that. I don't particularly mind ebonics and stuff, as long as it's slang. But when you knows that yous be crossing da line into unneccessary pluralization and knowingly bad grammars 'n ****, I's be real mad at yo nigga ass.

The only people I've seen do this are rednecks and blacks, an odd couple for sure. I should read up on this issue, because I don't know which one of them came up with this stupid, stupid way of talking first.

« Last Edit: March 11, 2010, 12:30:47 am by Nemesis6 »

 

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Re: The english language getting crazy
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ppl who write lyk dis

dat 1

Seriously I should shoot myself for doing that.
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Re: The english language getting crazy
Like a thousand needles poking your brain.

Generally, I find new ways of speaking English interesting, so naturally, I took a shine to this language: http://web.archive.org/web/20080318145227/http://www.maimiti.pn/poetry.htm

That's some poetry written in Pitkern, which is primarily a spoken-only version of 17th century English mixed with Tahitian. It is a separate language, spoken by about 47 on the Pitcairn island, and an additional 380 on Norfolk island, where another kind has developed, called Norfuk, which is apparently a standardized version of Pitkern, so basically, same language.

Here's some sample text in Pitkern/Norfuk as it's written today: "Norfuk esa laenghwij spoken i' Norfuk Ailen. Es a' miks a' oel Inglish en Tahityan laenghwij, en es riilated t' Pitkern. Mani word i' Norfuk a' f' Erabek, liik "shuga" an "koton," an mani word a' f' Inglish, liik "ailen" an "tiemsoen.""

Another English language I find interesting is Nigerian Pidgin English. It's an English Creole language with lots of Yoruba language words sprinkled in. There's a sample of it here, see if you can keep up! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1nKR3gYRY8

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I know suffer no be small
Upon say I get sense
Poverty no good at all, no
Na imma make I join this business

419 it no be thief, it's just a game
Everybody dey play em
if anybody fall mugu,
ha! my brother I go chop em

[chorus]
National Temples -- na me get em
National Stadium -- na me build em
President na my sister brother
You be the mugu, I be the master
Oyinbo man: I go chop your dollar!
I go take your money and disappear!
419 is just a game, you are the loser I am the winner
The refinery -- na me get em,
The contract -- na you I go give em
But you go pay me sum mo money make I bring em
you be the mugu, I be the master…
na me be the master ohhhhh!!!!

When Oyinbo play wayo,
dey go say na new style
When country man do him own,
them go dey shout: bring em, kill em, die!

That Oyinbo people greedy, I say them greedy
I don't see them tire
That's why when they fall into my trap o!
I dey show them fire

Oh what the hell, I'm on a roll. If you think that was hard, check out the Krio language, spoken in Sierra Leone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krio_language
« Last Edit: March 11, 2010, 12:42:18 am by Nemesis6 »

 

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Re: The english language getting crazy
Let's just all start speaking Vasudan and heck with the rest of the world. 
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Re: The english language getting crazy
Speak zod?  Over my dead body!
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Re: The english language getting crazy
I's be real mad at yo nigga ass.
Can i's axe you's when my burfday is?
Every pilot's goal is to rise up in the ranks and go beyond their purpose to a place of command on a very big ship. Like the colossus; to baseball bat everyone.

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Re: The english language getting crazy
added some much needed options :D
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