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Offline Bob-san

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Re: (some) rich people suck
Zack, what do you mean by "people who don't conform"?

Half of the immigrants? :nervous:

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And the result is widespread xenophobia. So immigrants are just as subject to being punished for their social transgressions.
Not always xenophobia, but frustration that there are millions, at least, of people illegally in the country. I have no problem with legal immigrants or minorities, but what I do find ironic and quite hilarious is racist anti-gay xenophobes.
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Offline iamzack

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I'm not convinced that most of the illegal immigrants have much choice in the matter. It seems to be hop the fence or stay put (for years and years or forever).
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Which doesn't change the fact that they still have the choice to come legally or break several laws to get here. 

Also, I'm calling it right now, the next abomination to come from "der fuhrer" is going to be that "We have a MORAL RESPONSIBILITY to allow illegal immigration.".

What right does he have to tell me what I have a moral responsibility for in the first place?
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Man! How do Mexicans DARE to be born south of Rio Grande... :lol:

While I'm at it, why do you guys always compare anything you don't like with Hitler and Nazism? It gets old really fast (actually, it got old a few decades ago). At least compare it with Chávez or something more current.

 

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el_magnifico, this is Liberator we're talking about. He's obviously never heard of Godwin's Law either.
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El-Magnifico, the problem most people have with illegal aliens (although some who oppose illegal immigration probably are racist rednecks) is that they break the law by jumping the fence.  If that wasn't bad enough, they also refuse to learn English like all the other immigrants before them and they also have too many kids for them to feed so they end up on welfare.  Besides, jumping the border and then claiming you are entitled to be here is a slap in the face to everyone who takes the time and effort to enter legally, and it takes a lot of time, effort, and patience to emigrate to this country legally.
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Offline iamzack

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You really believe illegals refuse to learn english? That's almost as stupid as liberator referring to Obama as Hitler.


PS: http://reason.com/assets/db/07cf533ddb1d06350cf1ddb5942ef5ad.jpg
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El-Magnifico, the problem most people have with illegal aliens (although some who oppose illegal immigration probably are racist rednecks) is that they break the law by jumping the fence.  If that wasn't bad enough, they also refuse to learn English like all the other immigrants before them and they also have too many kids for them to feed so they end up on welfare.  Besides, jumping the border and then claiming you are entitled to be here is a slap in the face to everyone who takes the time and effort to enter legally, and it takes a lot of time, effort, and patience to emigrate to this country legally.

Hold on! You mean they speak in Spanish too!? ¡Ay chihuahua! Those nasty bastards!!! What kind of subhuman speaks Spanish in the first place!? :lol:

Well, enough for now. Sorry, but I'm a bit bored and I need to have fun with something.

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I see you have with Mexicans the same "problem" we have (mainly) with Bolivians and Paraguayans, but also with Chileans and even some Uruguayan and Brazilian ones. I know in Buenos Aires inmigrants have a bad reputation, but since Buenos Aires is already a mess for its own merits, I'm going to disregard porteños (their inhabitants) and speak of my own personal experience. So this will be heavily biased, okay?

First of all, I'm a stereotypical Argentinean middle class guy. Tall, blonde, with hazel/green eyes, I carry a French and a Basque last name and I know for sure my family has been around here for less than a century. In fact, I guess my ancestors didn't arrived here legally to begin with. So claiming I'm entitled to be here, while legally true, raises more than one eyebrow amongst Bolivians and Paraguayans who happen to be of aborigean descent and feel (with some reasons) that's a bit unfair.

Second, while the local people despises those black, fat guys who speak with a weird accent, I usually despise the local people. They are so used to a relatively comfortable life that they forget their grandfathers were exactly that: foreigners of all types and nationalities, many of them didn't spoke a word of Spanish, and in most cases, they never did. So while the inmigrants study and work hard and just go around minding their own businesses (which happens to be my definition of a good neighbor) the local ones (especially, but not exclusively the local poor) are generally the ones who steal, deceive, and live of state welfare.

So, that's the reason why I turn a blind eye for illegal inmigration here, and feel a bit of sympathy for those Mexicans.

Your situation as a country, and your personal experience, vary. Since I don't know your particular situation, but I'm still a bit bored, I'm still going to write a joke here and there. Don't take it too seriously.

EDIT: Pluralized "Bolivian" and "Paraguayan" in the fourth paragraph.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2010, 07:41:56 pm by el_magnifico »

 

Offline Liberator

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I'll be clear.

I have no problem with people who come here and spend the years it takes to become a citizen, in fact I applaud them.  More folks for the melting pot.

My problem is exactly as stated.  People who come here illegally and refuse to integrate.  If I get into a fender bender with one of these people, I can't even communicate with them to exchange insurance or do anything but exchange furtive glances. 

And it's not a racial thing, I could care less if you are red, black, yellow, white or purple with speckled polka-dots(that one chick was HAWT!), just behave in a rational, pleasant manner and integrate into the society you have inflicted yourself with and on.
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.

 

Offline iamzack

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go find an illegal who has been here a year that isn't trying his damnedest to learn english. it doesn't make any sense to come here looking for work and not learn any of the language.
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My problem is exactly as stated.  People who come here illegally and refuse to integrate.  If I get into a fender bender with one of these people, I can't even communicate with them to exchange insurance or do anything but exchange furtive glances. 
You seem to need something like this, but from English to Spanish:

http://www.spike.com/video/zuiikin-english/2731513

Then you can dance and sing: Stop beating me with a tube! Stop beating me with a tube! :lol:

 

Offline Blue Lion

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I'm confused, are you upset they come here illegally, refuse to integrate or both?

So if people came here  illegally and integrated, you'd be ok?

 

Offline iamzack

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Probably not. "They're takin' our juurrrbs!"
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Offline Nuclear1

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And now the debate moves on to illegal immigration:

RIGHT #1:  DEY TOOK OUR JOBS!
LEFT #1:  jobs you never wanted
RIGHT #2:  THEY REFUSE TO LEARN ENGLISH
LEFT #2:  well english is a really difficult language to learn...one of the 5 most difficult in the wor--
RIGHT #1: DEY TOOK OUR JOBBSSSSSSSSSS!
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Offline Blue Lion

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What are tomorrow's lottery numbers?

 

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Spoon - I stand in awe by your flawless fredding. Truely, never before have I witnessed such magnificant display of beamz.
Axem -  I don't know what I'll do with my life now. Maybe I'll become a Nun, or take up Macrame. But where ever I go... I will remember you!
Axem - Sorry to post again when I said I was leaving for good, but something was nagging me. I don't want to say it in a way that shames the campaign but I think we can all agree it is actually.. incomplete. It is missing... Voice Acting.
Quanto - I for one would love to lend my beautiful singing voice into this wholesome project.
Nuclear1 - I want a duet.
AndrewofDoom - Make it a trio!

 
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Oh, well, cut him some slack regarding the language issue. While I think not knowing a language isn't enough motive for hating someone (hell, I had to taught myself English just to play old DOS games), he does has a point: It's at the very least highly advisable that you learn at least the basic stuff BEFORE you inmigrate, and if possible, as a rule of courtesy, avoid talking in your native language when other people are around you.
I know I feel a bit nervous when the trademark young Chinese woman dispatching in the trademark Chinese supermarket is talking through her cellphone in freaking Chinese while staring at me and laughing. It's not reason to want her to go back to China, but it's not nice either. Not to mention they never keep the milk refrigerated during the night, and rarely clean anything.

EDIT: OOPS! "his" for "her". I'm also not sure if "dispatching" should be changed to "attending" or something else.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2010, 11:04:59 pm by el_magnifico »

 

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I don't hate them.  I don't hate much of anyone.  But I can disapprove of behavior/attitudes quite strongly without hating someone.

Right now my ****list consists of:
Adolf Hitler for being a racist bastard who almost succeeded in taking over the world.
Osama Bin Ladin, for being a religious zealot who manipulates other zealots into being mass murderers.
Garrosh Hellscream for being a 2d character who exists solely to piss people off.
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The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.

 

Offline TrashMan

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Zack, what do you mean by "people who don't conform"?

Half of the immigrants? :nervous:

 :warp:

And the result is widespread xenophobia. So immigrants are just as subject to being punished for their social transgressions.

When I say "not conforming" I was referring to keeping their old lifestyle (and practicly culture) in a new country and really not integrating, I wasn't talking about not disobeying laws.

It doesn't work well and frankly, people like that should be booted out of the country IMHO.
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When I say "not conforming" I was referring to keeping their old lifestyle (and practicly culture) in a new country and really not integrating, I wasn't talking about not disobeying laws.

And you say this about people coming into America?.

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