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Re: "Requiem for Detroit"
He doesn't needs to be a brainwashed machine to be a rightist.
I think he sincerely believes what he thinks is the best for him and his country. He may be right or wrong, just like anyone else (and I have to admit he's a bit funny sometimes, like that depressive post in the last page), but the man defends his beliefs, and that is something to respect on him. Don't you think so?

 

Offline StarSlayer

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I'd be curious to see how the wealth distribution today matches up with Feudalism :D
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Okay, I understand the drinking and pot thing, but you look at what coke does to already impovershed neighborhoods and the crazy **** people do to innocent people while jacked up and stuff, made me think you were being sarcastic.

 

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Alcohol is just as bad as coke for that sort of thing. Addicting, lowers inhibitions, expensive, exacerbates mental/emotional problems, etc.
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Offline General Battuta

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Like it or not the government is looking after you, with health and safety regulations to ensure a safe work environment, with pollution regulations to ensure we dont frak up our water and air any more (leading to drastic improvements in the quality of the environment in the US).

Except up until now, they haven't been acting like a deity telling us "Thou shalt drive this car." or "Thou shalt eat this food."   Now they are.

That's funny, I thought you were in favor of additional government intervention in our lives.

Or are you actually in favor of allowing gay marriage and access to abortion now?

Also, are you just going to ignore everything said to you? Because that makes you either a moron or a troll.


 

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That's funny, I thought you were in favor of additional government intervention in our lives. After all the arguing, how on Earth could you think that?

Or are you actually in favor of allowing gay marriage and access to abortion now?  I've said all along that I support civil unions, just leave the religious thing out of it.  Abortion, also, is allowable...under certain, very specific circumstances.  Using it as a form of on demand birth control is both dangerous and moronic.

Also, are you just going to ignore everything said to you? Because that makes you either a moron or a troll.Why should I answer this when you have already concluded that I am a troll?


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I wouldn't conclude that you were a troll if you would respond to the questions about where you get your figures.

Otherwise you're just cruising from absurd point to absurd point.

 

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If gays can't have marriage backed by the federal government, NOBODY CAN! :) That's equality.

Also, who gets to decide whether a woman really "needs" an abortion or not? A... government abortion panel? Perhaps?

lol
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Offline Thaeris

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There's always anarchy for those who will not be satisfied. Just burn, pilliage, and destroy until there's nothing left. Somalia is still on the map, so clearly they're not done yet..  :doubt:

I think the point is that balancing government regulation with personal liberties is a difficult act, and is made more so when cultural conventions change in a matter where once what was regulated by traditional morals doesn't quite do it for everyone anymore...

That said, the truth of the matter is that law is a development of a moral value or value. A law is established (or attempted to be established) when personal morals are found to be deficit or precieved to be as such. A law is thus enforced morality.

Lastly, it's hard to not be cited as some sort of hypocrit when you desire to defend your own morals (which may or may not be ultimately of value to society) with the law, while also noting that you desire less government regulations. Simultaneously, there's also a problem when you cite that the law must be altered to enable something else, as this will also affect the actions of others, perhaps to a loss of their own livelyhoods. In any way, there's no perfect solution.
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The law shouldn't be used to enforce morality. It has been, but that **** sucks. The law should be used to protect us, our property from other people.

So: my drug use only affects myself (making my momma sad doesn't count, **** you), it should not be illegal. Stealing to feed my drug habit, however? Illegal.

My marrying a woman, and our receiving the thousands of benefits of marriage doesn't affect anyone else, so it shouldn't be illegal.

And since it shouldn't be legal to physically inhabit another person's body against their will, it should not be illegal to remove such a person from my body.

Et ****ing cetera.
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...this thread seriously went from the economic situation in Detroit...to abortion?

Well ****ing done, people. :lol:

 

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i dont know where detroit is, just that its been a ****hole my whole life
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i dont know where detroit is, just that its been a ****hole my whole life

that's mostly because the people who ran the big important companies that employed everyone in detroit were morons, and it caught up with them, and everyone else got screwed.

Pro-business folks will try and blame the unions, or say that unions arent necessary now that we have laws about how you can treat your employees.  That they are trying to dismantle the right of workers to unionize is actually proof in itself that unions need to continue to exist. 
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Offline iamzack

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everyone sucks.

put impotence in the water.
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How do you know they aren't?
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.

 

Offline Turambar

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everyone sucks.

put impotence in the water.

I don't suck.  If i can't make babies, then i won't be able to pass on my not-sucking.  Also, that really should be more of a last resort if we start getting close to earth's carrying capacity (even though i think we should really stop a long time before we get there, so we can live comfortably while we invent space colonization).

How do you know they aren't?

because i have facebook friends younger than me with kids.  19 and 20 year old people with kids.  They went and made more humans before they even knew if they'd be able to pay for their educations!  downright irresponsible if you ask me.
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Turambar, if you parent like your parents, your kids will hate you like you hate your parents.
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Pro-business folks will try and blame the unions,

To be fair, they have a point. It's the natural progression that once it exists it has to justify its existence by obtaining better conditions for the workers continually. Eventually they were going to push too far to be competitive. You can argue over that point for the car industry, I guess, but it's hard to beat it when talking about the steel industry.
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...this thread seriously went from the economic situation in Detroit...to abortion?

Well ****ing done, people. :lol:

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because i have facebook friends younger than me with kids.  19 and 20 year old people with kids.  They went and made more humans before they even knew if they'd be able to pay for their educations!  downright irresponsible if you ask me.

You may whine and complain about how morals are out of date and religion is the embodiment of stupidity.  But when religion and god played a larger role in peoples lives, you didn't have nearly the percentage of the population reproducing willy nilly.
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.