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Offline Flipside

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But Daleks are awesome. :(

Agreed, but too much of them can kind of ruin the impact, this war was so tightly shut that the Lords of Time, one of the first races in the Universes, and people who had mastered the art of Time Travel before humanity had even appeared, cannot get out, and yet it seems to leak Daleks like a sieve, maybe it's something to do with the Pepperpot shape ;) There seems to be a rule that every incarnation of the Doc must meet Daleks at least once.

Though, admittedly, I get the strangest feeling these Daleks are not out to destroy Earth, quite the opposite in fact, it's just a strange suspicion that I can't shake off....

 

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I'd say that one (1) Dalek can be awesome. Several billions of them? Not so much.
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so basically thumbs so far keep up the good work, with slight concerns on rehashing some of the old bad guys again.

btw i support the darleks in the preview bit are british operated but i think they will turn at some point, maybe not in the first encounter but they will
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Actually, I'm wondering if we are going to see a re-appearance of a very old facet of Dr Who, there was, in fact, a rebel cadre of Daleks (created by the Doctors interference) that did not believe in Davros' and the Emperors vision and fought against the mainstream Daleks, I could be wrong, but it would be kind of a nice twist if these were some of them, since, if it is a 'nomal' Dalek then everyone watching will already know it's going to go horribly wrong, it'd be interesting to get a curve-ball ;)
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There're certainly bringing some old stuff back - I'm sure I saw some Silurians in that clip at the end. :D

I always found them the scariest when I was younger - all that eating people and putting them in cadges an stuff. :shaking:

 

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i just had a random thought, they can bring rose tylor and *david tennant* back.  at the end of last nights eppisode the badguy said the universe was fracturing, presumably this meens some dimensional cracking meaning there will be a path through from the alternate earth that tylor and the exiled human/doctor live on
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I think this is something different to the rift at Torchwood, I think this is more to do with the foundations of Space and Time itself, maybe the Time-War put so much strain on reality that it's starting to give after Gallifreys last little solution?

Frankly, I think it would be best, if they even intend to do a Tennant/Smith/Ecclestone meet-up, that it not be for a good couple of years to allow Smith to be firmly implanted in the mind of the viewers as the 'real' Doctor for that series.

  

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While i do love the Daleks and Cybermen (the main Mondasian ones) i do agree with that the new who does need it own signature villain to fight against.
I can't wait to see the Silurians again, i remember watching them against Jon pertwee and thought they were awesome, then we got peter Davidson's warriors of the deep which didn't do these fantastic creatures any justice, lets just hope that this 2 parter that they are in will.

Daleks in force can be scary if written properly, the audio dalek empire series is a prime example as well as Blood of the Daleks, Time of the Daleks. The daleks in those audio stories come across as a real and terrifying threat, because they are well written. The only Dalek episode i liked was "Dalek" and that was an adaptation of the audio story Jubilee and it wasn't written by Russell. He can do good stuff, he just can't write good dalek stuff.
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Isn't the Doctor close to running out of regenerations?

 

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It seems they have sort of thrown that bit of canon out the window.
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Offline NGTM-1R

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Isn't the Doctor close to running out of regenerations?

Technically, he already should have.
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I think it is a bridge they are going to have to cross to be honest, since that fact is so firmly ground into Dr Who canon that just ignoring it entirely would likely cause problems. It'd be interesting, come to think of it, if he fully expected to die at his 14th regeneration, and yet he doesn't, he regenerates as normal, and he doesn't know why.

 

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Isn't he supposed to be the 3rd mythological figure from Gallifreyan story about the events leading up to they're mastery of time?  Rassilon, Omega, and the Other(hence the ? moniker)>
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Isn't the Doctor close to running out of regenerations?

Technically, he already should have.

How? He has 13 regenerations and is only on 11 AFAIK.

It seems they have sort of thrown that bit of canon out the window.

Well the master is on his 15th or 16th regeneration IIRC. Although he gained one by stealing one from the 7th/8th doctor.
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How? He has 13 regenerations and is only on 11 AFAIK.

I've been told that's a retcon in and of itself, and that in the black-and-white days it was nine, but I've not seen said episodes so I can't swear to it.
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It did indeed used to be 9.
Seems to be a very flexible number though and the new series has never touched on it at all.
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If it was, it's a very old retcon as I seem to remember the Five Doctors episode stated the numbers were 1st to 5th Doctors.
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the regeneration cycle rules has some get round clauses http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Regeneration#The_Regenerative_Cycle

As with most such "rules" there were occasionally exceptions to the twelve regeneration limit. The High Council, offered the Master a new regenerative cycle if he complied with rescuing the various incarnation of the Doctor from the Death Zone. (DW: The Five Doctors) Although he did not receive this award on that occasion, during the Last Great Time War the Master was given the ability to regenerate once more (DW: Utopia).
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Wow, i lovd that episode. I didnt think Smith would be that good, however, I was totally suprised by how amazeing he was. Especially towards the end when he recalled the aliens and dealt with them. Also, I hope we see more of that Rory, he was quite funny. "Erm, did he just bring them back? Did he just save the world from aliens, then brought all the aliens back again?!"

as for ewgenerations, I thought he only had 12, however, we'll have to see when the time arrives I guess.

Also, I do wonder if we'll see the Master again, and if we do, will  he be in charge of the Time Lords after his return to Gallifrey? will he be a prisoner? will he be ont he doctors side? will he use him? and most importantly: Will he still be  played by John Simms?  :D
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Isn't he supposed to be the 3rd mythological figure from Gallifreyan story about the events leading up to they're mastery of time?  Rassilon, Omega, and the Other(hence the ? moniker)>

According to fanzine and some novel writers with over-active imaginations, yes, personally, I think the whole 'Mobius Doctor' idea is a terrible idea.