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Offline MatthTheGeek

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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
Wait, no turrets on that?

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
... sadly, not. It's gonna be able to salvage debris and cargo containers, and the HW2 engine don't allow a ship with these kind of abilities to have weapons. That's the kind of limits you have to deal with when modding a game which source code isn't released :|

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EDIT 2: Custom backgrounds !

... It's just too bad that this one is too high-res for my Intel integrated to handle. I'll have to rebuild smaller ones >.>
« Last Edit: June 20, 2010, 03:52:21 pm by MatthTheGeek »
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666maslo666: Releasing a finished product is not a good thing! It is a modern fad.

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Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

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batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
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batwota: oh right :P
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MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
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Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
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Offline -Norbert-

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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
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If you get shot in the cockpit it's not really going to matter if there's glass there or not...
That really depends on the strength of the material used for the cockpit canopy and the power, speed and angle of the shot or piece of debris.
I'd rather have the glass (or whatever is used in FS) and the helmet, than just one of them, if I was sitting in that cockpit.

But since glass is translucant and the fighters are so small that you will only see the missing canopy when pausing and zooming in, leaving the glass away and keeping the pilots is the obvious choice.

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
Latest version has been uploaded, link in the first post.
I suggest to play on Kharam Wreck, given it's the only map I've really adapted for my mod so far. Be advised that the custom background on this map is REALLY GPU-extensive, so if you experience too much lag, just go in the leveldata/multiplayer/deathmatch and replace 2p_kharam_wreck.level with the 2p_kharam_wreck_orig.level found in the previous folder, in order to revert back to the standard HW2 background.

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« Last Edit: June 21, 2010, 10:49:35 am by MatthTheGeek »
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666maslo666: Releasing a finished product is not a good thing! It is a modern fad.

SpardaSon21: it seems like you exist in a permanent state of half-joking misanthropy

Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

bigchunk1: it's not retarded it's american!
bigchunk1: ...

batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
Darius: ah!
Darius: yes, i like that
MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: XD
Axem: bring me solo and a cookie

 

Offline Locutus of Borg

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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
the file is busted, every time I try to extract I get an error
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Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
the file is busted, every time I try to extract I get an error


^This.......... :mad:
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-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Offline MatthTheGeek

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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
Get 7zip, winrar has issues when extracting some kind of 7z files.
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666maslo666: Releasing a finished product is not a good thing! It is a modern fad.

SpardaSon21: it seems like you exist in a permanent state of half-joking misanthropy

Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

bigchunk1: it's not retarded it's american!
bigchunk1: ...

batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
Darius: ah!
Darius: yes, i like that
MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: XD
Axem: bring me solo and a cookie

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
Ahah!

Okee Dokee............ :yes:
* Dekker goes to find 7zip
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
GO GO DEKKER RANGERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The only good Zod is a dead Zod
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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
Are you planning to make this a standalone in the foreseeable future? I'm inferring that a standalone isn't possible due to technical issues involving the lack of a released source-code, but I know nothing about Homeworld and nor do I have it. Which is why I'm asking.  :)

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
Yeah, can't do a stand-alone without the executable, so everyone wanting to play will have to buy the game. Sorry mates, but not all games can be as awesome as FSO :D

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666maslo666: Releasing a finished product is not a good thing! It is a modern fad.

SpardaSon21: it seems like you exist in a permanent state of half-joking misanthropy

Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

bigchunk1: it's not retarded it's american!
bigchunk1: ...

batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
Darius: ah!
Darius: yes, i like that
MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: XD
Axem: bring me solo and a cookie

 
Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
Well then, I might buy HW2 just to play this mod...and so that I won't be totally clueless if when The Apocalypse Project gets released.  ;)

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
Do yourself a favor and play Homeworld 1 first. It's not as moddable but it's a lot better.

 
Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
Thanks for the advice, will do if I can find the money to spare for moar games.  :yes:

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
HW1 is about as old as FS2, so you won't ruin your credit card buying it, and you won't regret it. Handling and graphics are a bit less good than HW2, but gameplay, campaign and storyline (and storytelling !) are much better. Try HW Cataclysm too, a bit in a different spirit, but it's good and worth playing too.
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666maslo666: Releasing a finished product is not a good thing! It is a modern fad.

SpardaSon21: it seems like you exist in a permanent state of half-joking misanthropy

Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

bigchunk1: it's not retarded it's american!
bigchunk1: ...

batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
Darius: ah!
Darius: yes, i like that
MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: XD
Axem: bring me solo and a cookie

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
<saamtaw command>BURRRRNN!</saamtaw command>
 
By the way. My 7zip (just downloaded) is saying unknown compression method :(
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
GO GO DEKKER RANGERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The only good Zod is a dead Zod
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Offline MatthTheGeek

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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
Quite odd. I'm gonna reupload the latest version tonight, sit tight ;)

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666maslo666: Releasing a finished product is not a good thing! It is a modern fad.

SpardaSon21: it seems like you exist in a permanent state of half-joking misanthropy

Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

bigchunk1: it's not retarded it's american!
bigchunk1: ...

batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
Darius: ah!
Darius: yes, i like that
MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: XD
Axem: bring me solo and a cookie

 
Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
getting the same error with 7zip and winrar

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

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Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
New version is up, rar this time. Link in the first page updated.

Oh and yeah, the AI should work with FS1, not tested with FS2. And of course don't expect FS2 to be balanced with FS1 at all. Again, play in Kharam Wreck, you'll be able to enjoy this new background you've been seeing in the few screenshots above :).

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« Last Edit: June 21, 2010, 04:24:12 pm by MatthTheGeek »
People are stupid, therefore anything popular is at best suspicious.

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666maslo666: Releasing a finished product is not a good thing! It is a modern fad.

SpardaSon21: it seems like you exist in a permanent state of half-joking misanthropy

Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

bigchunk1: it's not retarded it's american!
bigchunk1: ...

batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
Darius: ah!
Darius: yes, i like that
MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: XD
Axem: bring me solo and a cookie

  
Re: FS2 RTS in the HW2 engine, Total Conversion
Okay, I just played a few rounds. It's looking very promising, and I look forward to the finished product.

I noticed a few things though:
Similar to the Star Wars mod for HW2, the fighters all seem way too tiny, to the point of invisibility. And then everything seems to move way too fast, to the point that Ursas and Hercs seem to be flying and manuvering like Ulysses (would). Would it be possible to scale everything up by, say... 50% or even 100%? That should fix both problems, in my opinion.

And nothing was able to dock fighters yet. I assume that will be fixed down the line though.
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