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Offline Redstreblo

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Re: Bible "literally true"
I don't see the point of this thread. Is it really necessary to provoke people into arguments that are never going to end no matter what anybody says or what proof you show them. If a religious person believes that a supernatural power created the Earth and the universe only a few thousand years ago they are going to believe that for their entire lives. The person that believes in evolution and scientific research will say that the layers of the Earth and radiometric dating or whatever the technology is called proves that the Earth and the universe are millions of years old. A religious person will just respond back saying that the evidence you have is false and the technology that you used to find it is bogus and that the Bible is fact blah blah blah.

These sorts of arguments will go on and on and generalizations are created and people will complain about the generalization and so on and so forth. I say you should live with the beliefs that you have and love and let others believe what they believe.

I disagree with anti gay laws and abortion laws because of the separation of church and state. The only reason I see for these laws to come into being is because of a religious group trying to force itself onto other people and trying to get people to live by their rules and standards. The government has bigger and more important things to worry about and the USA at least is supposed to have freedom of speech, religion and all that. These anti-gay marriage laws are unconstitutional and should be repealed on the grounds that you are stomping on peoples freedom to make their own decisions and live their own lives. Religions should display their own beliefs, spread their message and preach all they want, but please for the sake of peace and love keep it out of our laws.

And to you non religious people (me included) stop trying to convince religious people that there is no god and that the Earth is millions of years old and there is scientific proof for this and that. Do not press your beliefs onto other people either. Let them believe what they want and do not complain when they do not listen to you. People are perfectly happy with their beliefs and if they are happy and they teach good lessons and there aren't genocidal killings and sacrifices life is good and there is no need to change anything. Keep the knowledge you gained with research to yourselves and make the best use out of it as you can. There is a lot you can learn from these studies and they should continue. I just want to get across the same message. DO NOT TRY TO FORCE OTHERS TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU BELIEVE.

This topic is only good for bringing out the worst in people and causing the never ending debate. Lets leave things well enough alone shall we?

Sorry for the long post... just want people to understand that the world will be a better place if people were more understanding of other peoples religions or beliefs.   ;)
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now your bringing politics into it and ruining the discussion. go vote or something and get out of the thread. i really dont care who is right or wrong and the earth can ****ing burn as far as i care.
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now your bringing politics into it and ruining the discussion. go vote or something and get out of the thread.

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Re: Bible "literally true"
I watched a couple of videos featuring an Italian lecturer (I guess) claiming that the Bible is literally true. Using the original Bible, he came out with interesting stuff about the genesis of Eve: he claimed "rib" is a wrong translation of "half".

In poor words, God took half of Adam's cromosomes (X) and doubled them to create Eve, ergo the XX cromosomes females have.
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Re: Bible "literally true"
I watched a couple of videos featuring an Italian lecturer (I guess) claiming that the Bible is literally true. Using the original Bible, he came out with interesting stuff about the genesis of Eve: he claimed "rib" is a wrong translation of "half".

In poor words, God took half of Adam's cromosomes (X) and doubled them to create Eve, ergo the XX cromosomes females have.

Did he say this all happened in six days?

 

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Re: Bible "literally true"
I still have to watch that part. I have to admit, however, that the guy came out with interesting stuff.

EDIT: Here's the video about Adam's rib. The title means "Adam's rib: a wrong translation which has made the Bible look like a fable."

EDIT2: That linguist talks about a lot of things. At the beginning of that video, for example, he says that the Bible mentioned the great ocean Panthalassa and the continent Pangaea. Not with these names, of course.
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That's the fun thing about the bible. You can cry "bad translation!" or "bad interpretation!" and make it mean whatever you want! I believe the bible is from space. That's my belief, and like Redstreblo said, it's wrong to outspokenly disagree with someone's belief!
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Re: Bible "literally true"
I watched a couple of videos featuring an Italian lecturer (I guess) claiming that the Bible is literally true. Using the original Bible, he came out with interesting stuff about the genesis of Eve: he claimed "rib" is a wrong translation of "half".

In poor words, God took half of Adam's cromosomes (X) and doubled them to create Eve, ergo the XX cromosomes females have.


It's a funny story but it's kind of ****ed up by the fact that all human beings start out biologically female in the womb.

 

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Just watch, in a few years, Adam is a mistranslation of Suzie.
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Re: Bible "literally true"
I watched a couple of videos featuring an Italian lecturer (I guess) claiming that the Bible is literally true. Using the original Bible, he came out with interesting stuff about the genesis of Eve: he claimed "rib" is a wrong translation of "half".

In poor words, God took half of Adam's cromosomes (X) and doubled them to create Eve, ergo the XX cromosomes females have.


It's a funny story but it's kind of ****ed up by the fact that all human beings start out biologically female in the womb.
All vertebrate embryos are inherently female anyway. It takes an extra chromosome at the right developmental stage to create a male... Jurassic Park simply denies them that.

 

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Re: Bible "literally true"
No nookie for dinos. :(

And Redstreblo, need I remind you, religious beliefs and an understanding of the proper geological age of the Earth are hardly mutually-exclusive tenets.

 

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Re: Bible "literally true"
All vertebrate embryos are inherently female anyway. It takes an extra chromosome at the right developmental stage to create a male... Jurassic Park simply denies them that.

Certain amphibians and fish can change their sex well in their adult life.

This plays an important factor in Jurassic Park, actually. Perhaps you should re-read it...
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Re: Bible "literally true"
All vertebrate embryos are inherently female anyway. It takes an extra chromosome at the right developmental stage to create a male... Jurassic Park simply denies them that.

Certain amphibians and fish can change their sex well in their adult life.

This plays an important factor in Jurassic Park, actually. Perhaps you should re-read it...

Dude, he was directly quoting a character from the book. :D

 
Re: Bible "literally true"
The old man, right?
"Neutrality means that you don't really care, cuz the struggle goes on even when you're not there: Blind and unaware."

"We still believe in all the things that we stood by before,
and after everything we've seen here maybe even more.
I know we're not the only ones, and we were not the first,
and unapologetically we'll stand behind each word."

 

Offline Herra Tohtori

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Re: Bible "literally true"
Dude, he was directly quoting a character from the book. :D

I blame the Finnish translation of the book... :sigh:


[EDIT]: I find it ironic that problems caused by different translation would arise in this topic of all. :lol:
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The old man, right?

Dr. Wu actually.

Certain amphibians and fish can change their sex well in their adult life.
Now, some West African frogs have been known to spontaneously change sex from male to female in a single-sex environment.  Malcolm was right...life found a way!

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Re: Bible "literally true"
Remember Nemo? The funny fish? He can change sex.

That's the fun thing about the bible. You can cry "bad translation!" or "bad interpretation!" and make it mean whatever you want! I believe the bible is from space. That's my belief, and like Redstreblo said, it's wrong to outspokenly disagree with someone's belief!

That's exactly what I would say but the original Bible seems to be a bit more accurate and built on better fundaments. It's expectable, though.
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Quote from: Wikipedia
Same-sex marriage currently is legal in Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Canada, South Africa, Norway, Sweden and Portugal.
And, since yesterday:

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Same-sex marriage currently is legal in Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Canada, South Africa, Norway, Sweden, Portugal, Iceland and Argentina.
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage#Country-wide_recognition

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Yeah, too bad Americans hate freedom.
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Just watch, in a few years, Adam is a mistranslation of Suzie.

And little did they know, all along, it was actually Adam and Steve!