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Offline headdie

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and ohh so FS2, good on the offensive but its screwed if it gets jumped
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Offline The E

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Which means that it's like the Bellerophon or Chimera, it's a good jump ambusher.
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Offline Commander Zane

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It'll be awesome if this one actually comes through.

 

Offline Angelus

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Well, it has those fancy heavy Missile launchers. Screw beamzors, Nukes FTW!

Make it a small but fast Assaultcraft ( ~700m length ), rather a Nuke-wielding Gunboat then a Frigate.

 

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I like the design, I can't wait to see it ingame. May work nicely as a small carrier, if it's less than 1.5kms in length.
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I think 1200-1500m sounds pretty good. (between corvette and Orion :D)
Destroyer-level firepower, be it torpedoes railguns or beams, jump-ambush config.
Doesn't really needs it minihangars but they don't hurt.
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Offline General Battuta

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Smaller please. Somewhere between a corvette and an Orion, so it can actually be used in-game.

We don't need any more godawful destroyers useful only as set-piece plot points. The existing ones are terrifyingly difficult to handle believably as it is.

 

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Why not? Destroyers are always welcome. I see there's a lack of ships filling the gap between corvettes/frigates and destroyers, but it's not good (IMHO) to alter the original size of a ship or sutff like anti-spacecraft and anti-warship capabilities may be altered as well.
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Offline General Battuta

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There are a lot of fan-made destroyers and none of them are particularly interesting in terms of player interaction. Corvettes and frigates are the sweet spot: small enough to maneuver, small enough to hurt, small enough for good turret coverage, big enough to survive a lot of damage and pose a real threat.

Destroyers are basically giant props. We don't need giant props, we need fun gameplay elements, otherwise you end up with Dawn of Sol all over again.

 

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There are more than enough ships in the Destroyer, Superdestroyer and Juggernaught range. This ship, while it was designed to be in the Destroyer range, actually looks more like something that would be right for the "Bigger than a Corvette" category (aka Frigate).
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It's more or less a matter of respect towards the original author, IMHO. If Spectre87's ship was supposed to be a destroyer, then it should become a destroyer. Modders will be free to edit its table entry and whoever is going to bring this beauty ingame can add more turrets, but I believe the original size and overall shape of the ship should remain as they are.

If an alternate (hence separate) version of the ship filling the requirements can be done, fine. Otherwise, I don't see the point in changing that way someone else's plans due to the shortage of light carriers/destroyers.
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Offline General Battuta

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As far as I'm concerned the model is abandoned and up for grabs in terms of creative control.

  

Offline The E

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Pretty much, yeah. SPECTRE87 hasn't been here in months.
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Offline Commander Zane

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True, I don't think any of his ships are going to be touched by himself any time soon, if ever.

 

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What if he comes back and wonders why the original size of his ship without a valid reason? Think about this possibility for a moment.

AFAIK I see no harm in keeping the original size.
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Offline General Battuta

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I doubt he'd get any angrier than when he left.

He can feel free to finish the model as a destroyer if he comes back. In effect he turned it over to the community.

The 'harm' is that the ship will be about 60% less useful. Ultimately, it's up to whoever gets the job done.

 

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True, I don't think any of his ships are going to be touched by himself any time soon, if ever.
As long as we don't criticize his ships in any way... :p

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In case you're new here and do not get the joke, he'd delete his models whenever anyone gave him any criticism about them, even constructive.
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If there's wide consensus on altering the ship's original size go ahead, we'll respect the choice. Otherwise, I support the idea of leaving the size as it is to respect the original author.
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Offline General Battuta

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I can see both sides, and I do respect Mobius' point. But I gotta admit I'm much more likely to ctrl-click this thing down in FRED if it's not Yet Another Awesome But Impractical Destroyer.

 

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importing the model into blender the naming conventions on the different parts suggest the armament is

6 Bgreen - 2 front, 1 each side, 1 dorsal, 1 ventral
8 heavy missile - 4 dorsal, 4 ventral, all in line along the front-rear axis grouped at the centre
6 large turrets with no indication about use, they could be blobs
3 Missile, one on each upper shoulder one where the engines meet the rest of the hull lower side
16 small_bar, no idea, they look like point defence laser or flack type
4 Torpedo alongside the forward beam turrets

I see no typical anti fighter beam mountings and all but the bgreen and the various missile type points are multi-part turrets.

also the two holes in the front of the side engine mounts look very much like hanger access points.

the radars top and bottom look to be moddeld ready to be made as rotating sub systems.  

The only thing missing is textures and empties/special points/helpers
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