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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
So wait

The people who died, they still alive.

On the sanctuary. The people who died in the war are still alive.. UEF could easily train the people on sanctuary to fight the war and literally bring people who were dead.

Eg. Capt. Genady who died... Could commander a karuna again. And engineer him not to make same mistakes or something?

It was just my thoughts....
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
So wait

The people who died, they still alive.

On the sanctuary. The people who died in the war are still alive.. UEF could easily train the people on sanctuary to fight the war and literally bring people who were dead.

Eg. Capt. Genady who died... Could commander a karuna again. And engineer him not to make same mistakes or something?

It was just my thoughts....

The Sanctuary doesn't have an alternate version of EVERYBODY from our universe, Bei was just lucky/Vishnan-blessed enough to meet an alternate Eriana.

 
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Ooooooo

I see..
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
What was the recovery time for our protagonist after her connection to cassandra?    It sounded pretty invasive.....
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Tbh it's pretty lucky that Eriana's parents were both on the Sanctuary, still hooked up, and managed to conceive a recognizably similar person despite completely different living circumstances.
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
That trope is "In Spite of a Nail" and isn't uncommon where alternate realities are part of the story.  Its a tidy way of explaining why the mirror-Enterprise has so many familiar faces, for example.  But there are more subtle story effects as well, suggesting that a particular character is "destined" or may be "chosen" for some special task by the universe.  (This in itself is interesting given some of the theories about the Vishnan influence.)
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Tbh it's pretty lucky that Eriana's parents were both on the Sanctuary, still hooked up, and managed to conceive a recognizably similar person despite completely different living circumstances.
Do we actually know Eriana's age? It's entirely possible she was born before Earth fell.
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
She'd have to be over 50 by the time of AoA, wouldn't she?

 

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I would not be shocked if Sanctuary-Eriana was somehow coerced by Vishnans to love Samuel to give as a reward for him for "helping" them.

There is no way the whole "we grew close almost immediately" was a coincidence.

 

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She'd have to be over 50 by the time of AoA, wouldn't she?
Isn't Bei at least in his 40s?
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<MageKing17> "There's probably a reason the code is the way it is" is a very dangerous line of thought. :P
<MageKing17> Because the "reason" often turns out to be "nobody noticed it was wrong".
(the very next day)
<MageKing17> this ****ing code did it to me again
<MageKing17> "That doesn't really make sense to me, but I'll assume it was being done for a reason."
<MageKing17> **** ME
<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
<MageKing17> ESPECIALLY ME

<MageKing17> God damn, I do not understand how this is breaking.
<MageKing17> Everything points to "this should work fine", and yet it's clearly not working.
<MjnMixael> 2 hours later... "God damn, how did this ever work at all?!"
(...)
<MageKing17> so
<MageKing17> more than two hours
<MageKing17> but once again we have reached the inevitable conclusion
<MageKing17> How did this code ever work in the first place!?

<@The_E> Welcome to OpenGL, where standards compliance is optional, and error reporting inconsistent

<MageKing17> It was all working perfectly until I actually tried it on an actual mission.

<IronWorks> I am useful for FSO stuff again. This is a red-letter day!
* z64555 erases "Thursday" and rewrites it in red ink

<MageKing17> TIL the entire homing code is held up by shoestrings and duct tape, basically.

 

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
She'd have to be over 50 by the time of AoA, wouldn't she?

At least 50 (assuming she was born in very early 2335), yeah. Of course, between the Sanctuary's sleeper ship configuration and the possibility of 24th-century medicine extending the human lifespan, 50 in 2385 might not mean the same thing that it does in 2019. Calder, for example, is about 70 in AoA, and there's nothing to indicate that he's anything but hale and hearty (and also, is still serving as fleet admiral where in modern militaries the retirement age is 65, I think).
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Aken was still going strong at what I assumed to be an extended age as was petrarch.

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
So when did the GVL Tawaret get a new model? And is it just me or does that new model look exactly like the Providence freighter from Eve Online?



On an in Universe note something I have always been wondering. Do we know if the Atreus has any other crazy tech in it other than the sprint drive? Because after seeing what the Orestes can do if the Atreus has even more toys that thing is absolutely bonkers.
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Tactical SSMs, among other gizmos.

 

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maybe a dedicated AWACS suite if the description is to be believed.

 

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And karaoke every Thursday.
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I think it also has got some small nasty anti-subsystem beams, but don't quote me on that.
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
by the way, is there a tech description for that beam?

 

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by the way, is there a tech description for that beam?
Assuming you mean the PBlue:

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'Void Fang' Pulse Beam

Pulse beams are descendants of anti-fighter beams, using quick-rise capacitors to fire a lance of confined plasma. This design excels at penetrating active armor and turret shielding.
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<MageKing17> "There's probably a reason the code is the way it is" is a very dangerous line of thought. :P
<MageKing17> Because the "reason" often turns out to be "nobody noticed it was wrong".
(the very next day)
<MageKing17> this ****ing code did it to me again
<MageKing17> "That doesn't really make sense to me, but I'll assume it was being done for a reason."
<MageKing17> **** ME
<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
<MageKing17> ESPECIALLY ME

<MageKing17> God damn, I do not understand how this is breaking.
<MageKing17> Everything points to "this should work fine", and yet it's clearly not working.
<MjnMixael> 2 hours later... "God damn, how did this ever work at all?!"
(...)
<MageKing17> so
<MageKing17> more than two hours
<MageKing17> but once again we have reached the inevitable conclusion
<MageKing17> How did this code ever work in the first place!?

<@The_E> Welcome to OpenGL, where standards compliance is optional, and error reporting inconsistent

<MageKing17> It was all working perfectly until I actually tried it on an actual mission.

<IronWorks> I am useful for FSO stuff again. This is a red-letter day!
* z64555 erases "Thursday" and rewrites it in red ink

<MageKing17> TIL the entire homing code is held up by shoestrings and duct tape, basically.

 

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Interesting. Makes you wonder why those are mounted only on the Erebus though. If anything they'd be most useful on cruisers like the Hyperion in ship-to-ship combat.