Author Topic: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?  (Read 139504 times)

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
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Narayana actually.
Oh great, that's an even more vital vessel than a Karuna.
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Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
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The Fedayeen rescued Laporte's ship with a Karuna, not a Corsair or two.
I think it is safe to assume the Fedayeen are not internal security forces, and have significantly more resources than anyone besides the Council of Elders is aware of.

The Revolutionary Guard are quite well-equipped too, arguably moreso then the KGB ever was, and are nearly a second army. In comparing the two, however, the point still stands; they're not well-trained and they're not terribly effective.

I was careful in choosing my analogy. :P
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Offline -Norbert-

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
But the Fedayeen have been able to keep such a low profile that most citizens of the UEF even doubt their very existance.
Now that might not mean they are top-notch pilots, but they got some serious skills in subterfuge and keeping secrets it would seem.

 

Offline Jellyfish

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
That's the sign of good Special Forces.
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Offline Ravenholme

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
But the Fedayeen have been able to keep such a low profile that most citizens of the UEF even doubt their very existance.
Now that might not mean they are top-notch pilots, but they got some serious skills in subterfuge and keeping secrets it would seem.

Except IIRC, the Vasudan and Terran pilots who took down the Lucifer (Which means the OLD Alpha 1) all vanished into the Fedayeen when the Ubuntu came to power. Think of the Fedayeen as a secretive military group (Paramilitary might have some more accurate connotations about their role pre Sol-GTVA civil war) with some badass veterans at the top.

I don't think they're going to be ill-trained, at all. I wouldn't doubt that most of their members are former fleet/marines/spec ops/law enforcement etc.

And given the words of the Masyaf, they are linked to Nagari based projects/initiatives.
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Offline -Norbert-

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
I didn't want to say they are bad pilots, just that we don't know if they are. But even if they have top notch pilots, they can't have seen the kind of missions the SOC has. Taking down terrorists flying fighters from the beginning of the TV war can't be anywere near as challenging as going up against the NTF and the Shivans.

 

Offline redsniper

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
Oh snap! If part 2 is a Fedayeen campaign and if FS1 Alpha 1 is still alive (sure he is, with FS technology), you've got to give him/her a cameo.
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Offline Snail

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
Oh snap! If part 2 is a Fedayeen campaign and if FS1 Alpha 1 is still alive (sure he is, with FS technology), you've got to give him/her a cameo.
As what? He almost certainly wouldn't be a fighter pilot. :P

 

Offline redsniper

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
No no, just... have him message you. Like "I fought the Shivans the first time, blah blah, great portents of doom, etc."
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Offline Commander Zane

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
Or, "Damn whipper-snappers and your external missiles and reverse afterburner and moving parts, why in my day we didn't even have shields in the beginning!"

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
As what? He almost certainly wouldn't be a fighter pilot. :P

FS is The FutureTM, human longetivity is doubtless improved, and FS fighters aren't nearly as demanding as modern ones in the manuvering gee-forces department. If the team wanted to stick FS1's Alpha 1 in a cockpit one more time, anyone who wanted to gainsay that is an idiot. :P
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
As what? He almost certainly wouldn't be a fighter pilot. :P

FS is The FutureTM, human longetivity is doubtless improved, and FS fighters aren't nearly as demanding as modern ones in the manuvering gee-forces department. If the team wanted to stick FS1's Alpha 1 in a cockpit one more time, anyone who wanted to gainsay that is an idiot. :P

Human longevity is indeed improved. There's mentions in the techroom of the Council of Elders gaining its name in part because members used longevity therapy to such an unprecedented extent.

 

Offline Klaustrophobia

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
i guess that explains why Sam was still a "young" fighter pilot after 18 years.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
i guess that explains why Sam was still a "young" fighter pilot after 18 years.

That and his extensive tour of duty aboard the GTD Lorentz, cruising at .96 C.

 

Offline Flak

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
Most likely the old Alpha 1 from FS1 at least would be one of the fedayeen inner circle or at least a ship captain.

 

Offline -Sara-

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
Or he's simply dead. :)
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Offline Dilmah G

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
Mmm, but if you think about it, many successful WWII pilots (mostly Allied, I've noticed, but anyone with a basic knowledge of both sides can probably make an educated guess as to why) have dropped military aviation altogether and gone off in the opposite direction. Hell, a fair few guys barely talk about their war days, and for good reason.

I wouldn't see it as unlikely for him to do something similar to Admiral Bei once the Council of Elders and whoever have finished raiding him for knowledge. Although I do recall seeing somewhere that he meditated for a while with the Council, or something implying that he did. But after you've seen the horrors of war, and how futile the whole process is (how many people did the Alliance lose fighting the Shivans?), it'd be understandable for him to want to have nothing to do with the war at this point.

Or the cooler alternative, Fedayeen Operators knocking at his door and calling him out of retirement with the promise of flying. :P

 

Offline Klaustrophobia

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
i guess that explains why Sam was still a "young" fighter pilot after 18 years.

That and his extensive tour of duty aboard the GTD Lorentz, cruising at .96 C.

where the hell did the GTVA get a destroyer that can go that fast?  we go from ~30 m/s to 2880000 in 18 years?
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
i guess that explains why Sam was still a "young" fighter pilot after 18 years.

That and his extensive tour of duty aboard the GTD Lorentz, cruising at .96 C.

where the hell did the GTVA get a destroyer that can go that fast?  we go from ~30 m/s to 2880000 in 18 years?

They just turned off the inertial dampers, of course!

 
Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
Well, besides a showdown between a Ravana and a Solaris destroyer...  ;)

I have to agree with requests for better anti-cap ship options. I got shredded whenever I went near GTVA forces, as was expected, so I just hung out at range and plinked turrets, and generally sacrificed my wingmen so I could live. Also, I know a big deal is made of 'fighting smart', with ships jumping out, but it seemed overplayed in the mission against the Carthage. EVERY enemy cruiser and corvette jumped out before I could finish them, and all friendly ships are simply massacred. Sure, it was all part of Steele' "according to keikaku" plan, but it felt unrealistic for a major engagement for the enemy not to lose a single vessel.