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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
I'd just like to be able to blow up something significant. The one or two Diomedes and the occasional cruiser helped, and I liked how the fact that you weren't able to do any significant damage to the GTVA helps the whole hopeless atmosphere in the campaign, but just make sure we get to see something hostile make a big boom in the second part of BP2.

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
We are definitely interested in allowing that, and the position players will find themselves in in R2 is more conducive to inducing explosions.

 

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
I would be glad if being able to use text-to-speech with the campaign (no beeps version, or option to force tts even when beep sound file is associated with the message). And nebula mission (maybe in the atmosphere of a gas giant?) would be nice.
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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
We are definitely interested in allowing that, and the position players will find themselves in in R2 is more conducive to inducing explosions.
We get to fly the Durga and V-hard-to-spell-bomber right?

 

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
Hey tutta, what if I make the changes i mentioned regarding the tech descriptions for WIHr1 and you can just paste it in your tables? (i've begun already)

 

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
Give it a shot, we'll see how it turns out.

 
Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
We are definitely interested in allowing that, and the position players will find themselves in in R2 is more conducive to inducing explosions.
We get to fly the Durga and V-hard-to-spell-bomber right?
If we do I just hope it's going to be more exciting than finding a blind spot on the ship and then launching/rearming until it's dead (looking at you High Noon). Maybe something like the FS2 mission where you're bombing every NTF ship coming through a jump node, but with more fighter harassment to make it more hectic.

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
As with most of War in Heaven, we are only interested in doing things when we can do them in a more complex and rewarding manner than base FS2. Sometimes we even succeed!

 
Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
moar chest candy!

srsly, the fleet commanders needa toss some shiney bits out to the people on the front lines to give the illusion that they are doing good. I mean it wouldn't be the military if you didn't get a medal for doing your job (and i would know, i got 3 commendations myself for just being there =p)

 

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
I always wonder why the terran bombers have so much weaker shielding compared to the seraphim. Especially the boanerges looks like it were one big shield generator. Do you plan to include any bombers with more shielding?

 

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
On the Tev side, you're not likely to see any new heavy bomber class. Reading the description of the Ursa and the Boanerges should give you a good idea of why. Heavy anti-capship work is expected to be assured by corvette classes, or medium bombers like the Artemis and the Rhea for smaller targets up to corvette size.

For the other factions, the UEF already have two heavy bomber classes, I can't tell about the Zods but they'll probably follow a similar doctrine to the Tevs, and I can't tell for the Shivans or the Vishnans.
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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
I always wonder why the terran bombers have so much weaker shielding compared to the seraphim. Especially the boanerges looks like it were one big shield generator. Do you plan to include any bombers with more shielding?
Isn't the Seraphim heavier than every other GTVA bomber? Also, alien super tech and all that.
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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
On the Tev side, you're not likely to see any new heavy bomber class. Reading the description of the Ursa and the Boanerges should give you a good idea of why. Heavy anti-capship work is expected to be assured by corvette classes, or medium bombers like the Artemis and the Rhea for smaller targets up to corvette size.

For the other factions, the UEF already have two heavy bomber classes, I can't tell about the Zods but they'll probably follow a similar doctrine to the Tevs, and I can't tell for the Shivans or the Vishnans.
Well Battuta said that for bombers to become effective they'd have to get either much lighter or a lot heavier...

  

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
Or be able to make shock bombing runs.
Jump in, unload, jump out. Time elapsed: only the absolute necessary required for the bomb to lock + 10 seconds. Then again, that sounds too much like a SSM strike...

Wouldn't it be better to make bombs themselves smarter and/or faster?
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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
Or be able to make shock bombing runs.
Jump in, unload, jump out. Time elapsed: only the absolute necessary required for the bomb to lock + 10 seconds. Then again, that sounds too much like a SSM strike...

Wouldn't it be better to make bombs themselves smarter and/or faster?
Yeah that's pretty much an SSM strike. Maybe we'll see different types of SSM strikes being employed.

 

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
Yo dawg, I herd you liek tagging, so we replaced SSM with Subspace TAG missiles, so you can tag while you tag.
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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
I agree with wanting to blow up heavier shipping but it shouldn't be overdone. As it stands the UEF has roughly 6 months before logisitics start to wear thin IIRC. And bombers look expensive...

 

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
Or be able to make shock bombing runs.
Jump in, unload, jump out. Time elapsed: only the absolute necessary required for the bomb to lock + 10 seconds. Then again, that sounds too much like a SSM strike...

Wouldn't it be better to make bombs themselves smarter and/or faster?

Sounds like it could work with Vassago's Dirge chain-jumping. Jump in, wreak havoc under dense enemy fire, survive, jump out the instant your drives recharge, rearm/repair, jump somewhere else.

 

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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
The Lucifer did that in AoA, but only in text. It never actually did so during the course of the campaign.
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Re: What do you want in the rest of War in Heaven?
Or be able to make shock bombing runs.
Jump in, unload, jump out. Time elapsed: only the absolute necessary required for the bomb to lock + 10 seconds. Then again, that sounds too much like a SSM strike...

Wouldn't it be better to make bombs themselves smarter and/or faster?

Sounds like it could work with Vassago's Dirge chain-jumping. Jump in, wreak havoc under dense enemy fire, survive, jump out the instant your drives recharge, rearm/repair, jump somewhere else.
The Carthage and Atreus are referenced as having special sprint/tactical drives that could allow them to do this.

If the Tev campaign does get off the ground I intend to do some **** about this sort of hit-and-fade attacks.