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Offline karajorma

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The Ground Zero Mosque Debate
It's not at Ground Zero.

It's not a mosque.

There should be no debate.


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Re: The Ground Zero Mosque Debate
I was wondering when there would be a topic about this.
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Yeah, a total non issue blown way out of proportion. Just another distraction from what's important.
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Re: The Ground Zero Mosque Debate
Actually it is a mosque and already exists in the same building.  So the point still stands that there should be no debate.
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There was mosque destroyed by the 9/11 attacks, y'know.

It was in the Pentagon.
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If we can have strip clubs in hallowed ground, we can have mosques in hallowed ground.

Also if you think a few blocks away from the WTC is hallowed ground, you're crazy.
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Re: The Ground Zero Mosque Debate
I was wondering when there would be a topic about this.

I was surprised there wasn't one already. Perhaps, for once on HLP, there isn't anyone stupid enough to actually believe that this isn't a one-sided issue.
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aaaaand now you've jinxed it....
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Frankly, the public perception in the States, like it or not, agree with it or not, is that the attack on Sept. 11, 2001 was perpetrated by followers of Islam in the name of their religion.  In that light, it's in poor taste to put a Islamic spiritual and outreach center 3 blocks from Ground Zero.  Understand, I don't care if they put up 10 mosques.  Just show a little judgement as to your location planning so as not to piss off the people you are trying to communicate and live with.
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So we're supposed to listen to idiots and do whatever they want then?

The fact that they are morons is precisely why we should do the opposite of what they want. :p
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as far as I can tell it's just a community centre with a prayer room or two....

 

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I was wondering when there would be a topic about this.

I was surprised there wasn't one already. Perhaps, for once on HLP, there isn't anyone stupid enough to actually believe that this isn't a one-sided issue.

I had heard nothing about any of this until now.  That's what I get for not following any news sources.  ;)

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Reminds me when i was watching nbc news the other day (it's not the greatest news, but it's better than fox). Nbc news was being misleading while a little less misleading, and then back to straight misleading with what they concluded.

They kept saying "mosque will be built at ground zero...approved by obama". When they also said a few times, "mosque will be built a couple of blocks away from ground zero...approved by obama"; this is more accurate, but i don't like nbc news or any kind of headline news on tv anymore because relation by reporters today tends to be horrible since they think the audience can't generate they're own conclusions (and the fact that the news is mostly just what's popularly fashionable to report about, lately it was BP, ground zero, and probably somewhere in the past JT's new album (lately important issues happen to be popular which is good for right now with a bull**** popular misinformation twist)).

In which case nbc news concludes that a mosque being built near ground zero is the exact same thing as building it at ground zero, which is not correct; it's a bad relation. Reminds me of how a lot of headline news during the days before the BP static kill in the gulf happened. BP was using some ingredients found in toothpaste mixed with what i think was normal mud to make sludgy mud they were going to use. In which case reporters equated "some ingredients found in toothpaste" to "using actual full blown toothpaste". Furthering it's another bad relation is also the fact that we didn't see colgate and aquafresh duking it out for a business venture with BP :lol: This is akin to considering you have cookies when all you did was set out the ingredients and you didn't do any mixing or baking.

Back to the point, to furthering headline news spreading lies about the issue is that it's not even a mosque being built. Headline news is funny, so designer fashioned and only about the popular stuff, even if it's wrong in the modern day. Whatever happened to integrity and dignity to those who don't dink around with the small designer popular ****, do their research and actually deliver the truth? At least obama endorses the community center and is pretty much making it happen (to what extent or degree we have yet to see).

But it really seems to show off how lazy and unreliable people in the news industry have become with the select few actually changing their roles to deliver the truth (i understand this issue was written truthfully by somebody who writes for a humor and video website...they did a fantastic job).

I don't have a problem with what the issue is actually about; build that community center 3 blocks from ground zero. I have a problem with the people reporting the news not opposing politician misinformation/re-interpretation/re-argument. This is so a symptom of a bigger issue that it's going to make free lance and independent reporting become even more popular than they are already now; thank you other websites, blogs, social networking.
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Cracked has more integrity and honesty than headline news.



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Yeah, a total non issue blown way out of proportion. Just another distraction from what's important.

It's important to Fox.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYWZXWWjwoY

Keith Olbermann pretty much sums this up
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Offline BrotherBryon

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Yeah, a total non issue blown way out of proportion. Just another distraction from what's important.

It's important to Fox.

and nearly the entire Republican party apparently. If the Republican's want to ever be taken seriously again (Not holding my breath on that one) they need to get off their whole we reject every thing the Dems are doing and lets  make a damn holy war while we're at it attitude and actually come up with something substantial to base their party platform on.

Seriously, We are the nation that holds up are freedoms for all to see and then rubs the worlds face in it all the damn time and yet things like this continue to become issues. As long as the builders follow city codes and ordinances let them have their center. Our nation as whole can only become stronger for it.   
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Re: The Ground Zero Mosque Debate
Question being;

If someone actually wanted to build a Mosque on the Ground Zero landmass, would that be wrong?

 

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Supposedly we were going to rebuild the towers, but since we aren't, I guess not.

Though, I think almost all of my support for the mosque-thingy near ground zero is just because I want to be antagonistic to right-wingers.

I don't think any mosques, churches, synagogues, etc should be built anywhere, ever. Big, expensive wastes of space.
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