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Duke nuke'd ze voor eeuwig. Sucks. (Or I just don't get it)
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So really, what is so especially interesting about Duke Nuke'm Forever? It just looks like... Dunno. Some doom-ish shooter. Except that you can draw on whiteboards. And pee. Like that is such an challange.

 

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Re: Duke nuke'd ze voor eeuwig. Sucks. (Or I just don't get it)
go for Bulletstorm instead.
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Re: Duke nuke'd ze voor eeuwig. Sucks. (Or I just don't get it)
Unless that game is going to make the tea, tidy the room, create world peace and then give me a blowjob, nothing will ever justify the amount of time it's spent in development, it's a dissapointment waiting to be released.

 

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Re: Duke nuke'd ze voor eeuwig. Sucks. (Or I just don't get it)
Unless that game is going to make the tea, tidy the room, create world peace and then give me a blowjob, nothing will ever justify the amount of time it's spent in development, it's a dissapointment waiting to be released.
Does anyone really have extremely high expectations for it, though?  Hell, I just want to play it to say I did, and if it delivers a reasonably-fun experience, so much the better.

 

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Re: Duke nuke'd ze voor eeuwig. Sucks. (Or I just don't get it)
Oh, I'd certainly buy it and play out of curiousity, but anyone expecting the game to look like it spent over a decade in development will probably only be vindicated in the fact that I suspect in places, it will look 10 years out of date.

 

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Re: Duke nuke'd ze voor eeuwig. Sucks. (Or I just don't get it)
Perhaps.

However I'm just excited there's a new Duke game coming out.  None of this Politically Correct bullcrap.  Duke likes his aliens in steaming, mushy piles of death and his women just steaming hot.  Hail to the king BABY!
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Re: Duke nuke'd ze voor eeuwig. Sucks. (Or I just don't get it)
Perhaps.

However I'm just excited there's a new Duke game coming out.  None of this Politically Correct bullcrap.  Duke likes his aliens in steaming, mushy piles of death and his women just steaming hot.  Hail to the king BABY!

YES.
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Re: Duke nuke'd ze voor eeuwig. Sucks. (Or I just don't get it)
I dont get it, why is the topic title in dutch?

Edit: And right when I posted that, I see it was because the presentation was in the netherlands
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Re: Duke nuke'd ze voor eeuwig. Sucks. (Or I just don't get it)
Perhaps.

However I'm just excited there's a new Duke game coming out.  None of this Politically Correct bullcrap.  Duke likes his aliens in steaming, mushy piles of death and his women just steaming hot.  Hail to the king BABY!

YES.
HELL YEAH!

 

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Re: Duke nuke'd ze voor eeuwig. Sucks. (Or I just don't get it)
I also don't get the hype. The thing Duke Nukem forever is most famous for is having spent a ridiculous amount of time in development - that's not really a good sign.
I remember when the first Duke Nukem 3D came out; the game was revolutionary in more than one way - it was basically the dawn of FPS shooters when FPS's were still referred to as "doom clones". We were used to Doom 1 and 2 graphics and limitations; suddenly you had a much more realistic game environment packed in much better graphics, running on a game engine that actually supported "advanced" features like looking up or down, or having multiple stories one on top of the other..
It also had something you never saw in a game like that before, and that was the incredible Duke attitude; the amount of macho jokes and violence was unprecedented for a game at the time. You could break apart urinals and windows, shoot aliens, tip strippers, and throw comments like "time to kick ass and chew gum.. and I'm all out of gum".
And these are all reasons why I think the new Duke can't ever reach the same "wow" factor the original had. It won't be revolutionary in any way - it'll just be another FPS with an over-the-top macho character. In 1996, this was new and original. However, it's almost 2011, we've seen it all before, and yet another FPS with a bunch of politically incorrect humor is hardly enough to awe anyone.
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Re: Duke nuke'd ze voor eeuwig. Sucks. (Or I just don't get it)
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So really, what is so especially interesting about Duke Nuke'm Forever? It just looks like... Dunno. Some doom-ish shooter. Except that you can draw on whiteboards. And pee. Like that is such an challange.

Let's reverse this for a second. Duke Nukem 3D was the second shooter after Doom and Wolf3D. I have always wondered what is so special in Halo after playing Duke Nukem 3D. Yes the graphics have improved since those days, but I can't help the feeling that overall gameplay is better in Duke3D than most modern shooters. Probably some sort of age thing. You get the same response from me of Halo:Reach demos, or Battlefield series that causes me to meh. But if Duke3D is any sort of indicator, there will be challenge.

Besides it's fun to play bad-ass last action hero who is composed of all possible action movie cliches and who doesn't need any sort of stinking body armors to kick ass. Always ready to spew one-liners after blowing someone up. And the motivation, ah, the lowest common denominator: aliens steal our women and thus need to be exterminated. And it's brutal, vulgar and politically incorrect too - just like the original! One thing though, don't even try to take it seriously. The game doesn't even take itself seriously.

No, you probably can't make many games of this sort before the thing gets old, but now it works well since the influx of "realistic" shooters. If they get it at least on the level of Painkiller, I'm sold.

There are a couple of things I don't like in the demos: glowing hints, regenerating health, continuous keyboard instructions and the two weapon limit. Especially the last one has to be the dumbest thing that could happen in a Duke game. Luckily, it is also likely the first thing that gets modded out of the PC version. So yes it seems to be affected by the consolization of the game markets.

So
YES, indeed
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Re: Duke nuke'd ze voor eeuwig. Sucks. (Or I just don't get it)
go for Bulletstorm instead.

Keep meaning to show that to my friends, they would love that.
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Re: Duke nuke'd ze voor eeuwig. Sucks. (Or I just don't get it)
Huh, the captain's log.
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Re: Duke nuke'd ze voor eeuwig. Sucks. (Or I just don't get it)
I also don't get the hype. The thing Duke Nukem forever is most famous for is having spent a ridiculous amount of time in development - that's not really a good sign.
I remember when the first Duke Nukem 3D came out; the game was revolutionary in more than one way - it was basically the dawn of FPS shooters when FPS's were still referred to as "doom clones". We were used to Doom 1 and 2 graphics and limitations;

i must have missed that era, i was too busy playing descent, i didnt play doom until some time after i had beaten quake. of course there were so many good games out back then that it was hard to play them all.
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Re: Duke nuke'd ze voor eeuwig. Sucks. (Or I just don't get it)
I also don't get the hype. The thing Duke Nukem forever is most famous for is having spent a ridiculous amount of time in development - that's not really a good sign.
I remember when the first Duke Nukem 3D came out; the game was revolutionary in more than one way - it was basically the dawn of FPS shooters when FPS's were still referred to as "doom clones". We were used to Doom 1 and 2 graphics and limitations;

i must have missed that era, i was too busy playing descent, i didnt play doom until some time after i had beaten quake. of course there were so many good games out back then that it was hard to play them all.

too true there was a lot of quality content out there during the 90s, and 3d was a good game that i'm glad i was able to play "at the time".  Typically for the era took a good while to finish even 14yr old me took days of hour after hour play to finish it (yes I did find out what dad's parental lock password was) and there were some novel effects and weapons used, freeze and shrink guns stand out as being novel for the time as well as the devestator.
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Huh, the captain's log.

Did you mean: Ha, the captain's log!

I don't know what is it with us Finns since there happens to be surprisingly lot of Duke related content coming from here. Perhaps it is the attitude? Anyways, here's Duke Nukem at home and a fictional Duke Nukem movie trailer.

Gross!
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Huh, the captain's log.

Did you mean: Ha, the captain's log!

I thought it was: "Ah... the Captain's log!"

 
Re: Duke nuke'd ze voor eeuwig. Sucks. (Or I just don't get it)
Hell yeah I'm going to play this.
I yearn for the older games where you run around, blasting bad guys in and out of cover instead of this hide behind the box and pop up sorta thing that dominates modern shooters.

  

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Re: Duke nuke'd ze voor eeuwig. Sucks. (Or I just don't get it)
Perhaps.

However I'm just excited there's a new Duke game coming out.  None of this Politically Correct bullcrap.  Duke likes his aliens in steaming, mushy piles of death and his women just steaming hot.  Hail to the king BABY!

YES.
HELL YEAH!

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Axem - Sorry to post again when I said I was leaving for good, but something was nagging me. I don't want to say it in a way that shames the campaign but I think we can all agree it is actually.. incomplete. It is missing... Voice Acting.
Quanto - I for one would love to lend my beautiful singing voice into this wholesome project.
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