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Self-explanatory. Choose which is probably the most effective anti-fighter/bomber weapon you can mount on a warship.

Anti-fighter beams
39 (51.3%)
Kaysers
7 (9.2%)
Circe, Maxim combo
4 (5.3%)
Circe, flak combo
7 (9.2%)
Trebuchets
11 (14.5%)
Cluster missiles
2 (2.6%)
Fighterkillers
2 (2.6%)
Swarm missiles
2 (2.6%)
Dumbfire missiles
1 (1.3%)
Heat-seeking missiles
1 (1.3%)

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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
went kayses in the absence of a kayser & HL-7 option
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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
Don't Kaysers have like an 800 meter range? Making them basically worthless on capships, where range is paramount?

Anyone voting for them is silly.

 

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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
not that silly option if you're gonna have a swarm of fighters getting close, or any kind of boarding operation.
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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
Don't Kaysers have like an 800 meter range? Making them basically worthless on capships, where range is paramount?

Anyone voting for them is silly.

Reading the title of the poll I went for that option.  Anyway may marksmanship is poop at maxim range and i enjoy dodging AAAF beams
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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
not that silly option if you're gonna have a swarm of fighters getting close, or any kind of boarding operation.

There are any number of weapons that will do just as well in Kayser range. Standard flak for one, which is god-tier with Fury AI.

 

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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
not that silly option if you're gonna have a swarm of fighters getting close, or any kind of boarding operation.

There are any number of weapons that will do just as well in Kayser range. Standard flak for one, which is god-tier with Fury AI.

but you cant mount flak on your Erinyes
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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
not that silly option if you're gonna have a swarm of fighters getting close, or any kind of boarding operation.

There are any number of weapons that will do just as well in Kayser range. Standard flak for one, which is god-tier with Fury AI.

but you cant mount flak on your Erinyes

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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
fair enough
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and i enjoy dodging AAAF beams

Teach me how T_T

 

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Sit still and there's a chance the beam will graze you harmlessly, but that's about it.
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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
I do that, which results in 1 of the 3 pulses hitting me. But on insane, that's not really good enough.

 

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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
Long Range Flak, with or without custom AI. End of topic.

 

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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
I do that, which results in 1 of the 3 pulses hitting me. But on insane, that's not really good enough.

just done a few test runs against a Fenris on insane, trying a mix of fighters, approaching the rear of the ship from the side so easily in clear line of sight of one of the beams but not the other and...  ok the best I managed was 2 clear misses and a graze on the 3rd pulse while in a Zeus, anything heavier and you just don't have the agility to dodge anything except blobs and anything lighter than a Myrmadon gets chewed before you can do any notable damage to the beams with all the dodging, the only "cheat" I used was to pack 1 rack of torpedoes where the tables allowed, releasing 1 torp after the second set of pulses which had me pretty close and only carried HL-7 and if available a bank of Kaysers in the cannons so no maxim sniping.  oh and helios cant lock fast enough to do it between dodges, Cyclops can with a little luck but I usually got hit by the first pulse waiting for lock to finish.
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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
and i enjoy dodging AAAF beams

Teach me how T_T
You could go at a 90 deg angle from the beams and hit burners. That way, when you get hit, you'll be out of the beam before it ends shooting, and only take a very small amount of damage at the beginning of the shot.

Another method is to fire a bomb and move 20-30 meters away- especially when there's no blobs or flak on the enemy ship. Beams take time to hit bombs pretty often, and bombs are the #1 target for turrets.

Also- after making a few tests, the Standard Flak wins against AAAf in shooting down both bombs and bombers.

The test was made by arming one Deimos with all Flak, and one with all AAA. Both were attacked by waves of 6 bombers, armed with Shivan Megabombs in all bays. Only the Flak Corvette survived the first wave nearly every time. The AAA ship did that only once. There were some 10 tests.

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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
Cluster missiles, if they were competently designed. Which they are not.

Realistically, the best anti-fighter weapon for a capital is escorting fighters.

In the awesome world of completely impractical silliness: Cluster missiles firing submunitions that fire AAA beams when they explode!
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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
Cluster missiles, if they were competently designed. Which they are not.

Realistically, the best anti-fighter weapon for a capital is escorting fighters.

In the awesome world of completely impractical silliness: Cluster missiles firing submunitions that fire AAA beams when they explode!

if you could miniturise anti fighter beams enough you would basicaly have a missile delivery system for a group of one shot cannons
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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
if you could miniturise anti fighter beams enough you would basicaly have a missile delivery system for a group of one shot cannons

I was actually figuring something like take FS' more efficient use of explosives and make scaled-down X-ray lasers.
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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
First choice is Anti-Fighter Beamz. Voted for FighterKillers tho as teh beam is obvious choice.
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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
In canon, AAA beams.
Outside it, rapid-firing Phalanx-style CIWS (or a Morningstar with "same turret cooldown").
Uninterrupted, almost perfectly accurate stream of fire, which creates a disorienting flash and tears attacking fighters to shreds.

 

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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
In canon, AAA beams.
Outside it, rapid-firing Phalanx-style CIWS (or a Morningstar with "same turret cooldown").
Uninterrupted, almost perfectly accurate stream of fire, which creates a disorienting flash and tears attacking fighters to shreds.
sentry guns with morningstars are fun to kill without using missiles
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