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Self-explanatory. Choose which is probably the most effective anti-fighter/bomber weapon you can mount on a warship.

Anti-fighter beams
39 (51.3%)
Kaysers
7 (9.2%)
Circe, Maxim combo
4 (5.3%)
Circe, flak combo
7 (9.2%)
Trebuchets
11 (14.5%)
Cluster missiles
2 (2.6%)
Fighterkillers
2 (2.6%)
Swarm missiles
2 (2.6%)
Dumbfire missiles
1 (1.3%)
Heat-seeking missiles
1 (1.3%)

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Offline Dilmah G

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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
If the bombers had lock restrictions on their bombs, it also means that they'll never get aspect lock.
I believe the AI pilots don't require aspect lock on missiles.

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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
Hence, "if".

Then again, other game oddities like broken AI trebuchets make the game much more playable. Imagine if Maras and Basilisks spammed trebs as much as they spammed hornets every time they showed up? Note that they also don't need missile locks for their trebs.

 

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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
Hence, "if".

Then again, other game oddities like broken AI trebuchets make the game much more playable. Imagine if Maras and Basilisks spammed trebs as much as they spammed hornets every time they showed up? Note that they also don't need missile locks for their trebs.

Again I think BP2 proves that this is frightening but not utterly game-breaking when aimed at the player. The real exasperation here is in what they'd do to capships; it'd be awesome if Trebs could be shot down.

 

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Well, shouldn't be the Trebuchet already be considered as a "bomb"?  :wtf:
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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
Well, shouldn't be the Trebuchet already be considered as a "bomb"?  :wtf:

It doesn't have the bomb flag.

 

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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
Well, shouldn't be the Trebuchet already be considered as a "bomb"?  :wtf:
Perhaps, fits the bill for something which should be destroyable, in my opinion (it's bloody huge!). Its high speed would make it a bit of a pain, however.
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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
an interesting weapon? mmm.... I think it's been said before... I know I did metion it sometime ago:

black hole missile!, launch one of those to a formation of fighters and look from afar as they are sucked into a tiny little spot left behind by the explotion of your missile  ;7
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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
an interesting weapon? mmm.... I think it's been said before... I know I did metion it sometime ago:

black hole missile!, launch one of those to a formation of fighters and look from afar as they are sucked into a tiny little spot left behind by the explotion of your missile  ;7

surly it would be an implosion?????
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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
Attractor missiles do work, they're pretty cool.

 

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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
not sure... probably a small explotion followed by an instantaneous and massive compression of all matter around it.

I'm not educated enough as to come up with a hole new technobable for this.

Attractor missiles do work, they're pretty cool.
They exist?, now I'm interested in where I can see this working!
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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
The SWAT system.

 

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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
not sure... probably a small explotion followed by an instantaneous and massive compression of all matter around it.

I'm not educated enough as to come up with a hole new technobable for this.

Attractor missiles do work, they're pretty cool.
They exist?, now I'm interested in where I can see this working!

Believe the Shrike in BP2 will do it to a degree.

 

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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
Hence, "if".

Then again, other game oddities like broken AI trebuchets make the game much more playable. Imagine if Maras and Basilisks spammed trebs as much as they spammed hornets every time they showed up? Note that they also don't need missile locks for their trebs.

Then make them require missile lock. Balance restored!


I'd also reduce Treb range..but that's just me.
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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
Attractors have been working for at least a couple of years since Nukemod wanted them.
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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
BGreens that shoot at fighters

 

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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
Snail, stop the sexp-based cruelty!

I still stand by my first answer that a wing of escorts is the best capital weapon against fighters. :P
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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
EMP missiles swarms :p
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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
Since we're going away from canon cannons, I'll suggest a Flak gun with high shield and subsystem damage, and nearly zero hull damage. This plus a few THT's would make a cool defensive barrier- if you get too close for too long, you'll get disarmed, disabled, dis-subsystemified, and finished of by Terran Huge Turret blobs- possibly the most embarrassing death in the FS universe.

EMP missiles disable bombs temporarily, so they'd also be useful.

Also- the Treb replaces the Phoenix V, which shares it's name with this monster, so it just needs long range, or it's not a worthy successor. Capships could use some area defence too, such as turret mounted Trebuchet instead of those crappy swarms or area effect weapons they normally use.

Reassuming- my ship would be armed with a mix of plentiful disabling flak guns, a few Treb launchers for area defence, a few EMP's to stop bombs, and a THT or two to do the dirty work up close.
Also- feature request: Capship countermeasures, to counter the Trebuchet snipers.
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Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
Capship countermeasures are done and in use by certain mods. They're not that great for capships that aren't able to maneuver rapidly because of the way FS countermeasures work.

 
Re: Deadliest anti-fighter capital weapon possible
EMP missiles swarms :p
bleah, I gave the AI these things once ... never again

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Since we're going away from canon cannons, I'll suggest a Flak gun with high shield and subsystem damage, and nearly zero hull damage.
Lol I was planning to test something like this this w-e

Maxim work decently against GTVA fighters/bombers, especially if they fire as fast as they should. I prefer using prom s turrets when fighting shivans (if we stick to canon weaponery).