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Offline General Battuta

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In spite of its faults, Mass Effect 2 was one of my favorite games of ever.

I'm not totally sold on this new one yet. It's pretty clear what the metaplot will be. Need to wait to see more.

Christina Norman has stated she wants to move the gameplay back towards a little more RPG-rich style.

Bring back aaaaaall ME2 squadmates.  :mad:

 

Offline Hades

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I would like to see Wrex come back as a squad mate, along with some new faces too. and I've love to see more Republic Commando implementation for squad-based combat, where they can revive you when you're down, etc and 3 squad mates instead of two.
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
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<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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I'm not totally sold on this new one yet. It's pretty clear what the metaplot will be. Need to wait to see more.

Wah wah wah Battuta wants more originality. :P Screw that! It's in the execution, and I really doubt Bioware will proceed to **** this up after the last two games.
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Offline Dilmah G

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****, that's awesome. :D

Bring back aaaaaall ME2 squadmates.  :mad:
:yes:

 

Offline General Battuta

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I'm not totally sold on this new one yet. It's pretty clear what the metaplot will be. Need to wait to see more.

Wah wah wah Battuta wants more originality. :P Screw that! It's in the execution, and I really doubt Bioware will proceed to **** this up after the last two games.

I don't care about originality, I just want it to steer away from cliched suck like some of the Mass Effect 2 story elements. Why they didn't stick with the draft script for the whole purpose of the Collector abductions is beyond me (and beyond the ex-Bioware writer I talked to too; he was the guy who wrote Thane, Legion and EDI, as well as the original explanations for what the Collectors were doing.)

 

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WANT. NAO.
[16:57] <CommanderDJ> What prompted the decision to split WiH into acts?
[16:58] <battuta> it was long, we wanted to release something
[16:58] <battuta> it felt good to have a target to hit
[17:00] <RangerKarl> not sure if talking about strike mission, or jerking off
[17:00] <CommanderDJ> WUT
[17:00] <CommanderDJ> hahahahaha
[17:00] <battuta> hahahaha
[17:00] <RangerKarl> same thing really, if you think about it

 

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I'm not totally sold on this new one yet. It's pretty clear what the metaplot will be. Need to wait to see more.

Wah wah wah Battuta wants more originality. :P Screw that! It's in the execution, and I really doubt Bioware will proceed to **** this up after the last two games.

I don't care about originality, I just want it to steer away from cliched suck like some of the Mass Effect 2 story elements. Why they didn't stick with the draft script for the whole purpose of the Collector abductions is beyond me (and beyond the ex-Bioware writer I talked to too; he was the guy who wrote Thane, Legion and EDI, as well as the original explanations for what the Collectors were doing.)


Was that the one were they where mind-ripping their captives for the Reaver-Wiki? 
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Offline NGTM-1R

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I don't care about originality, I just want it to steer away from cliched suck like some of the Mass Effect 2 story elements. Why they didn't stick with the draft script for the whole purpose of the Collector abductions is beyond me (and beyond the ex-Bioware writer I talked to too; he was the guy who wrote Thane, Legion and EDI, as well as the original explanations for what the Collectors were doing.)

And those of us who aren't compulsively seeking to trash things as cliched thought that it was a rather good way to build the Reapers up as true cthuloid monstrosities rather than Sovereign merely talking at us about it. (Like we're going to take the word of an enemy that they are ultimate badass incomprehensible death machines, for real guis! He means it! Show don't tell and other cliches.) The Human Reaper was, certainly, a failed art execution of the premise, but it demonstrably proved that the Reapers fall into the eldritch abomination category of being and deserved to be treated as such, instead of Berserker-esque rogue machines lacking in any form of menace.
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Offline General Battuta

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The whole concept they ended up using was fatally flawed because it rendered the Reapers into dependent, lamely Borg-esque things, merely human, instead of the Lovecraftian monstrosities they were supposed to be.

I wrote to one of Bioware's lead writers the minute I got done with the game and gave him an earful. Got a nice letter back, was a productive exchange. Nerfing the Reapers like that was the wrong thing to do, and I hope they take steps to make them true threats again instead of just lame.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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The whole concept they ended up using was fatally flawed because it rendered the Reapers into dependent, lamely Borg-esque things, merely human, instead of the Lovecraftian monstrosities they were supposed to be.

I wrote to one of Bioware's lead writers the minute I got done with the game and gave him an earful. Got a nice letter back, was a productive exchange. Nerfing the Reapers like that was the wrong thing to do, and I hope they take steps to make them true threats again instead of just lame.

So basically your stance is that a combination enemy cannot be more than the sum of its parts...actually that it is less than the sum of its parts, and only as frightening as a single individual that has gone into it. If each individual Reaper is essentially the sum total of a civilization, these are the equivalent of a Culture Mind or similar entity. And if you think that sort of thing makes for a lame and unthreatening enemy...

At this point I have to assume you're being contradictory for the sake of it.
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Offline General Battuta

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None of those points are connected to what I said, since my critique of the final draft has nothing to do with the 'combination enemy' (er?) trope.

In fact the original draft did a much better job of establishing those points without introducing any of the weaknesses that brought down the final.

 

Offline Scotty

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So, am I the only one betting that the game won't start out with Earth under siege, but slip that in about half way through the game?

 

Offline Turambar

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I'm guessing there's going to be stuff to do, but you'll have to choose to leave stuff un-done and rush to save earth or take your time while humans get turned into goo
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Offline NGTM-1R

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None of those points are connected to what I said, since my critique of the final draft has nothing to do with the 'combination enemy' (er?) trope.

Then you've completely failed to explain yourself in any meaningful way, since you were saying

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rendered the Reapers into dependent, lamely Borg-esque things, merely human, instead of the Lovecraftian monstrosities they were supposed to be.

And I'm saying

If each individual Reaper is essentially the sum total of a civilization, these are the equivalent of a Culture Mind or similar entity.

Which is in direct response to your commentary that the Reapers are "merely human lamely Borg-esque" things. Since a Culture Mind is about as far from "merely human lamely Borg-esque" as you can get without proceeding to sodomize physical laws for the pure fun of it.

And actually the Borg have been known to do that, but maybe you've been watching too much Voyager and you've forgotten what they're like. :P

So what, then, is your real objection?
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Offline mxlm

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I will ask that you explain yourself. Please do so with the clear understanding that I may decide I am angry enough to destroy all of you and raze this sickening mausoleum of fraud down to the naked rock it stands on.

 

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Hm, all I want is Tali, and that they simply "forget" what they did with that awful stupid terminator monster made out of human goo.

The idea with the goo wasn't so bad at all, it makes quite sense since sovereign said "each one of us is a nation", but they created their same shape for Aeons, but no, the humans are worth a new form. I wonder if anyone at bioware thought about, how that thing would look flying ? A giant superman flying trough space ? What a' crap.

The game would have been perfect IMO if there would have been a simple reaper embryo, but the ending somehow destroyed the entire feeling of the cool story in the end. I hope the responsible designer got fired  :mad2:

Oh, and I want Legion too, pretty cool character
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*idly wonders if he's the only gamer in the Western world who hasn't played Mass Effect*

 

Offline Hades

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*idly wonders if he's the only gamer in the Western world who hasn't played Mass Effect*
You don't play anything, do you? :P
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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*idly wonders if he's the only gamer in the Western world who hasn't played Mass Effect*
Even I have played Mass Effect. So yeah, you probably are unique.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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Offline Mongoose

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*idly wonders if he's the only gamer in the Western world who hasn't played Mass Effect*
You don't play anything, do you? :P
Well I haven't really played much made in the past five or so years, because I haven't the system (or the consoles, for that matter) to do so until recently.  And even putting that aside, I'm not much of an RPG person. :p