[CP5670]

this thread has become such a sexist thread. i'd like to say that girls can like maths and physics too; girls are _not_ evil thank you very much, girls aren't just there to support guys so they don't have to work; and a certain amount of outdoor exercise and sunlight is needed for you to stay healthy.

Well, you're right about that. To tell the truth, I technically view girls as the same as boys; they're all people, and all more or less the same. It's the love that is "evil," or not so much evil either as idiotic. Exercise is probably necessary to some extent, but sunlight is actually bad for the human body. Also, these are the conditions with the current state of the human; with technological advances being made every year, I doubt it will be all that long before these limitations will be circumvented by upgrading the human.

love is a _good_ thing. can't convince you, CP, if you've never experienced it. i feel kinda sorry for the day you fall in love- you'll be so majorly confused. (im being optimistic in this aspect, and quite confident too...)

You know, I have been told this many, many times over the last three years, and my thinking has continued to shift in the other direction from what I have seen of human affairs. I have determined that going into any sort of love affairs would be the surest way of completely messing up my life, not to mention that it will be the second stupidest thing I could do, but only time will tell about that. I have other objectives to complete in my life.

maths and science can be beautiful, but one of these days, go out, have a look at the sky. the sky's always beautiful.

It gets a bit boring to me after a while; always some shade of blue. Why not red or complete black? Math and physics, on the other hand, never cease to amaze me. (i.e. look at the p form of Euler formula: e^(pi) + 1 = 0 <--that right there is pure beauty seldom seen in the universe ) Some of the things encountered in physics are also like this; in my opinion, human affairs are as ugly as anything, but the workings of the universe are incredibly beautiful.

About love, dunno if CP can fall in love one day, if he never goes out. Anyway, honestly, if the guy think he can live forever in his room, the awakening will be terrible when he'll be 20 and his parents will kick him out of the house "now get a job". How will he do when mom and dad won't bring gim what he needs? , I just imagined the nerd in a supermarket, completly lost

bah, I have thought about that already and have a vague idea of my immediate future planned out reasonable well. If everything goes as planned, I should have completed a formal education by 23 or so and secured a doctorate degree and an adequate job; I can then spend the next two or three years working on completing one of my life's major goals.

[Styxx]

Now, tell us the truth - you're joking, right?

There are some things you can't have an opinion about without experiencing it, trust me. You'll get shocked on day, when reality strikes.

[CP5670]

There are some things you can't have an opinion about without experiencing it, trust me. You'll get shocked on day, when reality strikes.

I have been told that countless times already in my life. I have determined that, due to the relationship between, ideas, materials and perception, there exists an infinite number of theories based on logical (and consequently, mathematical) constructs that can account for anything except with the possible exclusion of independently random variables, of which there are very few in the universe, if they exist. Since humanity as a whole is fairly predictable, it can be said that anything relating to general human affairs can be theorized with reasonable accuracy with only a little bit of experimental data. Therefore, it should not be necessary to experience such things if other data exists.

[Galemp]

Originally posted by Kellan MacDonald


Would you go out with her?

Is she breathing?

[Nico]

Originally posted by CP5670


I have been told that countless times already in my life. I have determined that, due to the relationship between, ideas, materials and perception, there exists an infinite number of theories based on logical (and consequently, mathematical) constructs that can account for anything except with the possible exclusion of independently random variables, of which there are very few in the universe, if they exist. Since humanity as a whole is fairly predictable, it can be said that anything relating to general human affairs can be theorized with reasonable accuracy with only a little bit of experimental data. Therefore, it should not be necessary to experience such things if other data exists.

you won't sound smart just by using smart words to make nonsense

You know what my grand-pa would say? Science is like marmelade, the less you have, the more you spread it.
The pb is that you live in an alternative world, you know nothing of the real world. you need to grow up.

[CP5670]

you won't sound smart just by using smart words to make nonsense

hey, I was just giving a condensed version of my proof there without the details and the math. With the proof removed, it can just boil down to the accumulation of knowledge beginning with some basic experimental data and ending with the ultimate theory. you people need to get into what is called "logical philosophy," and then you will see the basis behind my ideas.

You know what my grand-pa would say? Science is like marmelade, the less you have, the more you spread it.
The pb is that you live in an alternative world, you know nothing of the real world. you need to grow up.

All "worlds" (in this case, collections of ideas) use the same principles at the most fundamental level, so that is where I have started from.

Also, this is yet another bit of experimental evidence for one of my ideas: in the minds of the masses, age automatically implies wisdom and this rule can be applied for anyone with almost pinpoint accuracy. Individuals will of course deny this, but watching their actions can show it to be true.

[wEvil]

Originally posted by Styxx
Now, tell us the truth - you're joking, right?

There are some things you can't have an opinion about without experiencing it, trust me. You'll get shocked on day, when reality strikes.

Wasn't bloody worth it for me, but then again both times it was long haul and rather emotionally overcharged

[Styxx]

Originally posted by CP5670
* truckloads of mathematical nonsense *

Okay, I give up. You can live on your secluded little world, believing that math is indeed worth anything except for generating computer graphics, and never learn what the real world is all about...

[wEvil]

Originally posted by Styxx


Okay, I give up. You can live on your secluded little world, believing that math is indeed worth anything expect for generating computer graphics, and never learn what the real world is all about...

expect or except?  

Bah..math isnt everything partaining to graphics.  You need finesse and a sense of composition, form and colour to do truly great images.

Pity I dont have any of them, really

[Styxx]

Originally posted by wEvil
expect or except?  

Had already fixed that before you posted.

Originally posted by wEvil
Bah..math isnt everything partaining to graphics.  You need finesse and a sense of composition, form and colour to do truly great images.

True, math is not everything, not even close to it - but for 3D computer generated graphics, it's essential. And it's one of the few good applications of complex mathematics that I consider.

Originally posted by wEvil
Pity I dont have any of them, really

LOL!

[CP5670]

Okay, I give up. You can live on your secluded little world, believing that math is indeed worth anything except for generating computer graphics, and never learn what the real world is all about...

hey I didn't have any math in there. If you want to see the full proof with all the math, you can get it in ten years. Using the fundamental logic assumptions alone, a number of interesting things can be shown, one of which is that the extension of logic, math, (possibly along with independent random variables) is the basis behind all the workings of the universe. math 0\/\/|\|2 _|()0!

[Styxx]

Originally posted by CP5670
hey I didn't have any math in there.

I wasn't referring only to your previous post...

Originally posted by CP5670
If you want to see the full proof with all the math, you can get it in ten years.

First, you can't prove that in a hundred, much less ten years. Second, I'd have way better stuff to do during those ten years, if I were you.

Originally posted by CP5670
Using the fundamental logic assumptions alone, a number of interesting things can be shown, one of which is that the logical extension, math, (possibly along with independent random variables) is the basis behind all the workings of the universe.

Nope, another thing you can't. For starters, math is not the basis for anything, it's just the means of representation. Mathematical constructs are built from real-world experiences, and the opposite won't work. Add that to the fact that a model tends to become more and more similar to the object it's trying to represent depending on the object's complexity and size, and you can easily realize that there's no way to accurately create a model of the universe that is smaller and less complex than the universe itself.


Just one question: how old are you again?

[CP5670]

I wasn't referring only to your previous post...  

oh that. That is actually just a problem I have ran into recently; you happen to know the answer?

First, you can't prove that in a hundred, much less ten years. Second, I'd have way better stuff to do during those ten years, if I were you.  

Already have most of the stuff nailed down; just need to formalize it now and get it into words and higher levels of precision. In ten years I am planning to have a book completed about my findings, which should also double as a thesis paper.

Nope, another thing you can't. For starters, math is not the basis for anything, it's just the means of representation. Mathematical constructs are built from real-world experiences, and the opposite won't work. Add that to the fact that a model tends to become more and more similar to the object it's trying to represent depending on the object's complexity and size, and you can easily realize that there's no way to accurately create a model of the universe that is smaller and less complex than the universe itself.

Exactly; that is why math is referred to as the extension of logic into the real world. It is our way of interpreting logic in the universe. Also, the last bit is true as well, but the complexity of the universe is either finite or transfinite, but not an absolute infinity. Therefore, it is possible to make a similar finitely or transfinitely complex formula relating everything. The one thing I am not sure about is those independent random variables that cannot be predicted, but the creation of such a formula is possible regardless of whether they exist or not.

Just one question: how old are you again?

15.7178 at the moment; still assimilating knowledge and have a long way to go, but I think I have gotten the core ideas.

[Styxx]

Oh, well. Go ahead, and good luck then. Keep our contacts to send news about your book in ten years...

[CP5670]

hehe, well why not...

[Styxx]

And don't forget to put our names on the thanks page!

"For the HLP guys, who did their best to prevent me from working on this."

[CP5670]

Actually you are a group to be thanked, since I have been able to hone some of my ideas and make more careful examinations on things due to the discussions here. My understanding of reality has definitely increased due to our little arguments.

[Redfang]

Originally posted by CP5670
15.7178

 

 
 
 
:p

[CP5670]

lol yeah I'm still young and need to make my ideas more precise before publicizing them, and then you also have this:

Also, this is yet another bit of experimental evidence for one of my ideas: in the minds of the masses, age automatically implies wisdom and this rule can be applied for anyone with almost pinpoint accuracy. Individuals will of course deny this, but watching their actions can show it to be true.  

[Redfang]

Originally posted by CP5670
lol yeah I'm still young and need to make my ideas more precise before publicizing them, and then you also have this:

 

 
I mean those decimals... accurate enough.