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Yet another character study
I just noticed something odd - this has almost gotten back on topic again...if one considers a different meaning than was originally intended for "character study."  [grin].

And I'm sorry I missed a few days of banter - there were several spots back there which I wanted to stick my $.02 in....dangit - these threads move too fast!  (-:

The conversations are fascinating, though....and as a little aside to whoever told me that money wasn't evil, I didn't say that money was evil - I said:

money=evil^(1/2) - read: Money is the root of evil.  [grin]  (Again - that little set of equations is to be taken in the same light as the responses it received....a very light one)
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What, the HLP road trip one?  I locked it once it was finished.

 
I was pretty amazed when I saw it had 50 posts in 30 minutes. But guess was I more amazed when I saw it had more than 500 posts in one night? A spam thread, indeed. But it was made by an admin, so of course it wasn't locked. But I don't actually care about that. :p

 

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My 2 cents: personally I think that older people tend to be wiser, but not always. Wisdom doesn't come from age, but from experience (learning from it of course), and older people tend to have more experiences in their life. Intelligence is even harder to measure since there are so many aspects. A person could be extremely 'smart', but throw that person on the street and and he/she could easily end up lost, not knowing what it takes to survive.

As to the whole math thing, I love math, I love fs2, but the joys I can receive from that pales in comparison to many other things (ie love, nature, sports, etc). I believe what should be more emphasized is variety.

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You know, I have been told this many, many times over the last three years, and my thinking has continued to shift in the other direction from what I have seen of human affairs. I have determined that going into any sort of love affairs would be the surest way of completely messing up my life, not to mention that it will be the second stupidest thing I could do, but only time will tell about that. I have other objectives to complete in my life.


Hehe, so true, love can truly mess up your life, but than again I think the joys from love (not lust, hehe totally different experience ;7) far outweigh any possible sorrow (refer to last part of my siggy).
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(refer to last part of my siggy).


Damn good quote, if you ask me. :nod:
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Offline CP5670

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I just noticed something odd - this has almost gotten back on topic again...


Now that is something that you don't see often here. :D

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I was pretty amazed when I saw it had 50 posts in 30 minutes. But guess was I more amazed when I saw it had more than 500 posts in one night?


I was also quite surprised to see the 50 posts come in so quickly. But judging from the incredible rate at which it was growing, at the time I went to sleep, I was guessing that it would probably hit 500 in a couple of hours anyway. :D

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My 2 cents: personally I think that older people tend to be wiser, but not always. Wisdom doesn't come from age, but from experience (learning from it of course), and older people tend to have more experiences in their life. Intelligence is even harder to measure since there are so many aspects. A person could be extremely 'smart', but throw that person on the street and and he/she could easily end up lost, not knowing what it takes to survive.


Yay; someone agrees with me there! :D Now, using the standard rules of sociology, it can be shown that the error in probability increases exponentially when mass-mob laws are applied to small groups or individuals. Also, as I said earlier, wisdom is simply the application of theoretical intelligence to human affairs, and so once some rules have been formalized, everyone can become "wise" if they want to. ;7

The human mind of contemporary society operates on certain principles that the masses refer to as "common sense," but these also follow or logical constructs and possibly IRVs. If the "smart" person does not know the workings of the human mind and how it can be manipulated (which, at least today, to some extent, is necessary), then he isn't all that smart in certain areas. :D Although I completely agree with you in that it is not easy (if at all possible) to measure average intelligence. The popular definition of it seems to be related to the academic subjects (any of the sciences, math, philosophy, etc.), but that can't really be right either.

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As to the whole math thing, I love math, I love fs2, but the joys I can receive from that pales in comparison to many other things (ie love, nature, sports, etc). I believe what should be more emphasized is variety.


Ah, good to see someone who agrees with the first sentence of the Colossus movie description. Out of the other things, I find nature quite beautiful too, but only the universe and existence as a whole; the earth alone is filled with all kinds of crap. :p

I think that variety as an important component of human thinking, but when people started their cohesion into civilizations, the concept of variety could also be expanded into the civilizations as well. This has already occurred with the division of work; people used to be self-supporting, and had to work on a variety of tasks, but things have become much more specialized since then. The future we are heading towards is the ultimate specialization; every human (or future human) working on specific tasks. The concepts of "joy" and "work" are also essentaially the same at their very core and at the most fundamental level, they cannot be distinguished between. Love was essential up to now because it allowed humanity to reproduce, but that era of history will come to a close very soon with the coming advent of biological cloning and robotic automation.

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Hehe, so true, love can truly mess up your life, but than again I think the joys from love (not lust, hehe totally different experience ;7) far outweigh any possible sorrow (refer to last part of my siggy).


Due to the theory of purpose, that technically strays from the final objective, but we don't need to worry about that just yet. I somehow just do not find love "fun" and certainly not useful; it's just stupid, but that has to do with my personal likes and dislikes and not the whole picture. :p

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Damn good quote, if you ask me. :nod:


Change "love" to "knowledge" and it will be. ;7

 

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Originally posted by CP5670
I somehow just do not find love "fun" and certainly not useful...


Add a "yet" to that sentence and it might even become true... ;)
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Offline CP5670

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As I always say to people who tell me that, just be patient for a couple decades... ;7

 

Offline Zeronet

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I dont like nature, the only good thing about it is maple, which is what a skateboard is made out of. Biological cloning? Your insane, it will never replace gods way. The lord gave us the ability to do this things, and although i agree with cloning to a certain extent, to grow a baby with a mother would be an act against god, and evil act. But then again, you dont believe in religion do you?
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Offline CP5670

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You know, if it is "against god," no offense, but I would support for it for that alone. :p :D But individuals (or even groups, using the rule of technological darwinism) can't stop the forward sweep of technological progress. :D

 

Offline Zeronet

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I dont call that technological progress. Anyway, if you want to be Satans little helper, i wont stop ye.
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Originally posted by Zeronet
I dont call that technological progress. Anyway, if you want to be Satans little helper, i wont stop ye.


And did God specifically come over for tea one afternoon? Did he perchance say to you, "By the way, Zero, I just wanted you to know that this whole cloning thing? Its the work of the Devil."? Somehow I don't think so.

Something tells me that mortal men, of whatever age or station, have no business deciding where things of the world fit in the cosmic scheme. Mortals are just that, and likely don't have the necessary perspective.
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Offline Styxx

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But individuals (or even groups, using the rule of technological darwinism) can't stop the forward sweep of technological progress. :D


Shall I remind you of a certain period of time that started on the early centuries of the gregorian calendar and lasted more than a millenium?...

I wouldn't want anything similar to that, of course, but it can happen. ;)
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Offline CP5670

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I dont call that technological progress.


But the people who have the power to make it a reality do, and so according to the same rule again, it will soon come true. ;7

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Shall I remind you of a certain period of time that started on the early centuries of the gregorian calendar and lasted more than a millenium?...


Sorry, not sure about this one; could you elaborate a bit?

 

Offline Zeronet

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Uh no it wont. An attempt to create a baby outside of the womb would probably never work, due to complications, sabotage and it being a bad thing to do.
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Offline CP5670

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eh...what complications and sabotage? It has already been done with animals, and humans are essentially the same thing with some minor differences. :p

 

Offline Nico

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Uh no it wont. An attempt to create a baby outside of the womb would probably never work, due to complications, sabotage and it being a bad thing to do.


bwarf, I bet it has been done already.
As for cloning, one thought: where is the fun? ;7
CP, you might not be interested with that, but as the elders ( lol, couldn't help myself :lol: ) would say: don't spit on it before trying it :nod: If generalized cloning does happen...well, I guess there would be nothing to do against it. Let just have the choice between that, and the good old fashioned way :) I will go for the second one anytime, I even have a great reason for that: huh, imagine clones of me !!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
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I will go for the second one anytime, I even have a great reason for that: huh, imagine clones of me !!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:


DEAR GODS NO! NOT THAT!



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Offline CP5670

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But the clones will be more advanced, since after the first few generations, we can learn enough about them to genetically engineered them to perform better. ;7
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Offline Odyssey

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But the clones will be more advanced, since after the first few generations, we can learn enough about them to genetically engineered them to perform better. ;7
I know this is almost entirely out of context, but:
For someone who has a complete rebuttal of normal human nature, you use far too many ';7' smilies.

 

Offline CP5670

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LOL I really like that one; those fit in nicely in a number of places and the smilies in general are meant to balance out some of my statements so that I don't look like a really nasty type of guy. :D And saying so: ;7