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Offline Nemesis6

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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 1 and 2, that's how I want a PC version of a game to be ported. That is to say, not at all, instead remade to such an extent that it no longer resembles the original's gameplay. See, the PC versions of these two games were outsourced to another developer called GRIN. They remade it so it was actually awesome on the PC, and hence I spent my money on that. Gives a good perspective after having tried "Rainbow Six Vegas" for the PC.

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
Ugh yeah, I remember those, the PC versions were disgracefully ****ty and nowhere near as good as playing the original Ghost Recon on the Xbox (which was basically a straight port of the superlative GR1 PC), nor anywhere near as good as the surprisingly-strong 360 GRAW. Never ever do I want that debacle repeated, and thank god GRIN went out of business. (The console-only Ghost Recon 2 was ****awful, and every Rainbow Six after 3 was also terribad, whether on PC or anywhere else.)

In fact I remember the outrage in the Ghost Recon community when we finally had to deal with GRAW PC only to realize how badly GRIN had butchered it. Even the optimization was awful.

Just more proof that in the end it's not the platform that matters, it's whether you can make a game that doesn't suck. There are plenty of superb crossplats like Escape from Butcher Bay, Bad Company 2, Just Cause 2, so on - a good designer doesn't care what platform it's on.
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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
I really don't see why any of it is even worth discussing.  I mean...this is Duke Nukem Forever.  It could wind up utterly sucking, and I'll probably still buy it as soon as I can and play through the whole thing.  It's not every day you get the chance to live a piece of gaming history, after all. :p

* Mongoose wonders if he should admit that he's never played Duke Nukem 3D :nervous:

 

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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
I'm going through Duke Nukem 3D with a community-made texture/model pack along with a new engine that allows parallax-mapping and all kinds of stuff. Check it out here: Duke Nukem 3D: High Resolution Pack for Polymer v4.2.x: http://hrp.duke4.net/download.php
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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
Ugh yeah, I remember those, the PC versions were disgracefully ****ty and nowhere near as good as playing the original Ghost Recon on the Xbox (which was basically a straight port of the superlative GR1 PC), nor anywhere near as good as the surprisingly-strong 360 GRAW. Never ever do I want that debacle repeated, and thank god GRIN went out of business. (The console-only Ghost Recon 2 was ****awful, and every Rainbow Six after 3 was also terribad, whether on PC or anywhere else.)

In fact I remember the outrage in the Ghost Recon community when we finally had to deal with GRAW PC only to realize how badly GRIN had butchered it. Even the optimization was awful.

Just more proof that in the end it's not the platform that matters, it's whether you can make a game that doesn't suck. There are plenty of superb crossplats like Escape from Butcher Bay, Bad Company 2, Just Cause 2, so on - a good designer doesn't care what platform it's on.

Yeah, Ghost Recon was awesome, but only in the right environment (as in, a group of local players who could actually function as something remotely resembling a team). I tried to give GRAW1 a chance, but never actually succeeded in getting more than a short way into it. We'd either not be able to get out of the helicopter at all or fall afoul of the godawful clipping.

I'm going through Duke Nukem 3D with a community-made texture/model pack along with a new engine that allows parallax-mapping and all kinds of stuff. Check it out here: Duke Nukem 3D: High Resolution Pack for Polymer v4.2.x: http://hrp.duke4.net/download.php

You know, I'm having the same problem with this that I currently have with FSO: It was so much fun back in the day that I played it completely and utterly to death and I'm so completely and utterly bored of it now that it's next to impossible to get into, because, no matter how pretty they make it, it's still the same game I grew tired of a decade ago :/
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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
You know, I'm having the same problem with this that I currently have with FSO: It was so much fun back in the day that I played it completely and utterly to death and I'm so completely and utterly bored of it now that it's next to impossible to get into, because, no matter how pretty they make it, it's still the same game I grew tired of a decade ago :/

I think in some respects, a few of got lucky on that. I have a CD still (in a CD caddy tray, no less) called Duke Assault which had 1500 extra levels on it. Many of them, maybe half, are deathmatch, but not all.
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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
Finished a playthrough of DN3D Atomic Edition as soon as I heard DNF was coming out last year.

I heard they're actually trying to honor pre-orders from the 90s. Anyone got one?
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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
The trailer was censored. :( I certainly hope the game won't be, or it can at least be turned off. :p

 

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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
The trailer was censored. :( I certainly hope the game won't be, or it can at least be turned off. :p

3D's parental controls were spot on (unless you figured out your dad's password :drevil: )
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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
The trailer was censored. :( I certainly hope the game won't be, or it can at least be turned off. :p

I'm willing to bet they'll follow The Saboteur's lead and make boobs a paid, day-one DLC.

[Insert joke about milking.....the franchise.]

 

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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
I'm willing to bet they'll follow The Saboteur's lead and make boobs a paid, day-one DLC.

[Insert joke about milking.....the franchise.]

Microtransactions are the future.
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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
Microtransactions are the future.

Only if development studios want me to lean the craft of bomb making and take down their offices
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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
Microtransactions are the future.

Only if development studios want me to lean the craft of bomb making and take down their offices

Boycott and piracy is more effective in the long run.  You should try it sometime.

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
Microtransactions are the future.

Only if development studios want me to lean the craft of bomb making and take down their offices

Boycott and piracy is more effective in the long run.  You should try it sometime.

Yeah those worked smashingly well on the best-selling single-day launch titles of all time.  :blah:

 

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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
I want to pre-order, but I feel uncomfortable...

**** it.

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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
Microtransactions are the future.

Only if development studios want me to lean the craft of bomb making and take down their offices

Boycott and piracy is more effective in the long run.  You should try it sometime.

Yeah those worked smashingly well on the best-selling single-day launch titles of all time.  :blah:

You have a very good point, Mr. Battuta.  However, I'm still right, because even though boycott and piracy are suboptimal methods of resistance, a bomb in an office is far worse.  First of all, the company will get insurance money, then a whole lot of media attention and sympathy.  After this event, their drive to finish another game in memory of the dead would surely cause another smash-hit, considering this game would be riding on the aforementioned media attention, therefore getting more people to know about it/buy it.  Essentially, the target company would become sort of a martyr, completely defeating the purpose of a bomb.  Oh, and the person doing the bombing would either blow himself up or be found and executed for domestic terrorism.

Also, my statement on trying boycott/piracy still stands.  It's fun!

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
You are indeed correct about the bombing, I will concede that.

Unfortunately I worry that the 'resort to piracy' tactic is backfiring because publishers read this as 'those people WOULD have bought our game if it weren't for TORRENTS' and then they just develop for consoles.

 

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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
I have to hop through 50 friggin' hoops to install a game now a days because of pirating. 
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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
I have to hop through 50 friggin' hoops to install a game now a days because of pirating.

Pirating actually remove those hoops directly, especially the "pull out your wallet and pay money" hoop.  Though, seriously, pay for games that you like/from companies that are not evil.

As stated earlier, it's the companies' naive reasoning and unfortunate response to the pirating issue that causes these problems.  Blaming piracy for that is like blaming sex for AIDS.  It's certainly partially responsible for, but not guilty of, these problems.

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
So you've got a vicious cycle here of 'bad corporate behavior justifies pirating justifies bad corporate behavior justifies pirating' and doesn't that maybe make you think a little that possibly one side has to stop so the other will too?