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Offline Mika

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Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
It seems to get released actually.

At least the release date has been set, and the official trailer is on Youtube.

Whether this is what I wished it to be is another thing.
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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
hmmm, May 3rd it is then, 4 days before my birthday, hell will freeze over.

is it me or does it look like duke nukem has run headlong into a halo game?  :wtf:
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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
I still say console shooter.

 

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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
That actually looks pretty awesome.
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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
I still say console shooter.
Uh, it'll be on PC first most likely.

 

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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
Who gives a **** what comes out where, that trailer looks awesome and I'm buying the hell out of the game in some form. :D

 

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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
Didn't it also get a release date a few years ago with several places even going so far as to start taking pre-orders? ;)
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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
I'll believe it when I see it.
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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
So they'll be switching engines and scrapping all of the existing content in April, then?

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What?  It was an annual tradition for the DNF team for a while, there.

 

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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
It's not real until I'm holding a copy.
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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
I still say console shooter.
Uh, it'll be on PC first most likely.

I don't see that happening... All gameplay footage thus far has been on consoles. Rebellion did the same thing with the latest AVP game -- They claimed that the PC and console versions were different, developed separately. The only difference this made was slightly better graphics on the PC. Gameplay was console-style in both versions. I'd love to be wrong and admit that I was being a pessimistic douche, but time and time again, the theory of multiplatform games actually being console games ported to PC is reinforced; it's easier that way, and with a title like Duke Nukem Forever, they don't even need to add any extra bells and whistles to the PC version, because the hype will make sure that people buy it anyway. They'll lose money working extra on the PC version with no financial benefit in return, so why bother? I think that's the way they see it.
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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
I still say console shooter.
Uh, it'll be on PC first most likely.

I don't see that happening... All gameplay footage thus far has been on consoles. Rebellion did the same thing with the latest AVP game -- They claimed that the PC and console versions were different, developed separately. The only difference this made was slightly better graphics on the PC. Gameplay was console-style in both versions. I'd love to be wrong and admit that I was being a pessimistic douche, but time and time again, the theory of multiplatform games actually being console games ported to PC is reinforced; it's easier that way, and with a title like Duke Nukem Forever, they don't even need to add any extra bells and whistles to the PC version, because the hype will make sure that people buy it anyway. They'll lose money working extra on the PC version with no financial benefit in return, so why bother? I think that's the way they see it.

Your word choice is a touch misleading.  You make it sound, in your original post and the start of this one, like you doubt there will be a PC release at all, and judging from the PC-DVD-ROM logo at the end of the trailer, if the DNF team actually decides that they're finished in May (instead of scrapping everything to start over), there will be a PC release.

That said, you're probably right about the game, in its current state, being a game will be native to consoles and ported to the PC.  There haven't been too many shooters in the last eight or so years native to the PC, if we're honest.  (This is actually why most of the first person shooters I still play are pre-Halo.  I don't need or like console aim assist butting in, when I'm trying to kill something.)  It's so common for shooters to start life on a console, only to be ported to PC that I just assume that's the development cycle for a shooter, lest I hear otherwise.....or if it's from a former Soviet republic.

Leaving that tangent aside, I don't see why it's worth getting one's hackles up over another shooter being principally developed for consoles, while the developers leave the PC behind as an afterthought.  The rage made some sense ten years ago, when Halo got turned into an XBox exclusive, but the gaming world was much, much different back then (oddly, largely by right of Halo having not yet been released).
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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
So you think it's horrible because it's on a console and because it's on a console it must have console gameplay which is automatically bad and different than it would have been for the PC.

That's pretty hilarious.
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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
Well, I will admit, I've been playing Assassins Creed for the last few days, and you can certainly feel that it was designed for a console controller rather than a keyboard. That said, once you have got used to it, it's not terrible, apart from the fact that I keep stabbing people I mean to push....

 
Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
So you think it's horrible because it's on a console and because it's on a console it must have console gameplay which is automatically bad and different than it would have been for the PC.

That's pretty hilarious.

To be fair, there are some annoyances that arise from playing a ported shooter on a PC.  Aim assist gets in the way; the game rarely looks as good as it could or should, and the game's community is typically fractured along platform lines.  All of these go away, if the game is developed exclusively for the PC, and the first two are alleviated if a multiplatform game is principally developed for the PC.  I don't personally find that enough to make a game 'bad' out of the gate, but the issues do get in the way and remind me that the game is a port.  Some of the polish just flakes off in the porting process.

There's further arguments to be made that console shooters have all had a very samey feel over the last several years, while PC developers have been markedly more ambitious, but that has less to do with the platform than who's developing games for it.  Microsoft Game Studios would still be looking for a cash cow to milk to death, whether making games for the XBox 360 or the PC, and 1C would still be utterly bonkers, whether it was making games for the PC or a console.

 

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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
Well, I will admit, I've been playing Assassins Creed for the last few days, and you can certainly feel that it was designed for a console controller rather than a keyboard. That said, once you have got used to it, it's not terrible, apart from the fact that I keep stabbing people I mean to push....

Hah, I had that problem too, so annoying when it ruined a stealth segment.
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There are cross-platform, console-first shooters which excel on the PC. Witness Bad Company 2, a fantastic game.

 

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There are cross-platform, console-first shooters which excel on the PC. Witness Bad Company 2, a fantastic game.

Yep, this is a good example of a port.

Heck, the Riddick games weren't badly executed, I had a lot of fun with 'em, at least.
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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
Escape from Butcher Bay was an absolutely brilliant game.

 

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Re: Well, it appears Duke Nukem Forever has just got a release date
I liked Battlestations: Midway. It's a split between how good the game was initially and whether the converters took 5 minutes taking into account the difference in input devices.