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Offline Bobboau

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Re: Excrement Impacts Ventilation Apparatus, Part 3: Libya
silly on-line petition, I signed it anyway.
http://www.petitiononline.com/01031988/
news blurb "...and an on-line petition gained over 5 million signatures in just a week" would sound nice.
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Oh, okay. I couldn't really tell. Some of it sounded like laughing, to me, which partially upset me internally.

 

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Re: Excrement Impacts Ventilation Apparatus, Part 3: Libya
Well to be honest I didn't listen to that much and my Arabic is ****. But what I heard was pretty genuine.

 

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Re: Excrement Impacts Ventilation Apparatus, Part 3: Libya
I often laugh when I'm overwhelmed by emotion, and I don't mean happy emotion. If a situation is sufficiently horrible i can't help but laugh.
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Ah, I think I know why. I'd clicked on the link to a YT video of a fight at an adjacent school that was posted on facebook, forgotten about it as it buffered and played intermittently over my music, and then heard both simultaneously as I clicked on this one after checking HLP and pausing my iTunes playlist. Silly Dilmah. :P

Watching it again, these people seem rather agonized. But eurgh, I hope those guys got a proper burial. :(

 

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Ah, I think I know why. I'd clicked on the link to a YT video of a fight at an adjacent school that was posted on facebook, forgotten about it as it buffered and played intermittently over my music, and then heard both simultaneously as I clicked on this one after checking HLP and pausing my iTunes playlist. Silly Dilmah. :P

Watching it again, these people seem rather agonized. But eurgh, I hope those guys got a proper burial. :(

teehee, that could've ended up so much worse

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Oh, you're not too far off! :lol:

Anyway, saw some other videos of protesters throwing rocks at what was apparently a Sniper team (looked more like two riflemen on a rooftop). You Libyans are brave SOB's.

 

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yeah, I've been fairly impressed with everyone in North Africa lately.
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Well to be honest I didn't listen to that much and my Arabic is ****. But what I heard was pretty genuine.
Well...from what I heard, it definitely sounded like expressions of outrage and sadness.  And I too thought I heard laughing, but I kept listening and realized that was more akin to wailing. 
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Re: Excrement Impacts Ventilation Apparatus, Part 3: Libya
yeah, I've been fairly impressed with everyone in North Africa lately.

While I'm impressed with them throwing out the despots, I fear that it'll just lead to new tyrants being installed, because that's what has happened after most of the revolutions the world has seen.

 

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misurata is under opposition control and i've heard unconfirmed rumors that Zuara and Az Zawiyah (a satellite of Tripoli) has fallen to them as well, I would not be surprised if this was over within the next 48 hours, hell it could be over within 6 hours if the reports of a huge mob of protesters heading from Az Zawiyah are correct.
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Bobboau, do you mind if I ask what country you're based in? I only ask because you seem to be very interested in these events - I would like to know what other countries, perhaps outside the "usual" sphere of influence, that these country's rebellions are affecting. Or are they not affecting your area?

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I'm American.
I'm also politically Libertarian, so I have a very deep interest in popular uprisings.
And they are, strictly speaking, affecting my area(and I would expect just about everyone else's), though not in a good way, as the price of gas is going through the roof, but IMO it's worth it in the long run.
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He blamed Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden for fomenting the unrest that has killed hundreds over the past week

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Re: Excrement Impacts Ventilation Apparatus, Part 3: Libya
Looks like the US is planning to invade Libya, if i understand Obama's speech last night correctly.. Bad, bad idea. Could end up like another Somalia, but then with a $200+ dollar per barrel oil. Maybe even worse.
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I didn't get that, all he is planning to do is impose sanctions. now he didn't say military intervention was off the table, but he has been vary wary of such a thing. Now, I've been saying we should bomb/cruse missile Gaddafi controlled air force bases, and maybe tanks, but it's looking like that might not be needed anymore. We DEFINITELY should NOT even consider ground forces.

oh, also map of events and Gadafi government control
looks like Gaddafi is sending a force from Tripoli to the east, but the opposition is coming in from the west.
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Re: Excrement Impacts Ventilation Apparatus, Part 3: Libya
Az Zawiyah

CNN is confirming that fighting is ongoing in the area. Also, apparently the rebellion is the result of young whippersnappers on his lawn, al Queda, and psychedelic drugs in the coffee according to Libyan's leader.

I'm not making that last bit up. He really did say it was due to drugs.

Looks like the US is planning to invade Libya, if i understand Obama's speech last night correctly.. Bad, bad idea. Could end up like another Somalia, but then with a $200+ dollar per barrel oil. Maybe even worse.

Full-scale invasion is a military impossibility in a meaningful timescale. At this moment, if my reading of things is correct, there are however a few military options open.

The US has a CVBG in the Med and could deploy another two or so in a few days. (There is also a 'phib group, but don't think for a minute that you're going to storm Tripoli with a couple battalions of Marines.) That gives you a carrier air wing and 20-odd Tomahawks to play with. Either coordinating with those on the ground (unlikely) or simply striking known targets that support the regime (command, control, communications) could both help even the odds. However Obama does not strike me as the sort to do so unilaterally.

What he could do, though, would be to recognize the rebellion and offer military protection to areas under rebel control, particularly Benghazi. A carrier air wing would prevent aerial or naval bombardment. (Nobody seems to know where the Libyan Navy is at the moment, or at least nobody is telling, but that collection of patrol boats could make a real mess of something if allowed.)
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wow... (good news)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgP0Gro52c8

I mean ****ing WOW!  :eek: that is amazing!
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Re: Excrement Impacts Ventilation Apparatus, Part 3: Libya
wow... (good news)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgP0Gro52c8

I mean ****ing WOW!  :eek: that is amazing!

That is... quite a few people.  They actually seem fairly well-kept and well-mannered at the moment as well.
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