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Vasudan Cruiser, or my attempt at one and other ships too
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Vasudan Cruiser, 4 twin barreled turrets and 7 BF Green Beam turrets are on so far. Dunno if I got too many BF Greens? Still to come are Medium beam turrets and slashers plus Anti-Fighter/Bomber turrets.
This also has two Fighter bays which I'm not really satisfied with them at the moment. It's also hard to see some of the hull details such as the central spine which is somewhat like some of the Vasudan Destroyers reactor glowing slots.

As for the design, It's not a show stopper that;s for sure! I'm, sure most of you have some first models out there you kinda cringe at now. Well this is my first shot at a ship and yeah it's not gonna shake the universe!  :doubt:
Since I took these shots, some details have changed and or added.

Still learning Wings 3D and might later dive into Blender since I just bought the manual for it.

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« Last Edit: March 12, 2011, 01:19:29 pm by Jadehawk »
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Offline Trivial Psychic

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Re: Vasudan Cruiser, or my attempt at one
It looks to need to be a bit thicker, with a few more curves.  Also, I'm not sure that a fighterbay should be on a cruiser.  I know that its been done in the past, but if you do want a bay, then it needs to be larger in proportion to the model.  Have it perhaps with a chin entry point like the intake of an F-16.  Also, make sure that your barrels point up and forward for dorsal multi-part turrets and down and aft for ventral ones.  It can be done other ways, but it makes it much simpler to set up in the pof.
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Very cool, the foward part reminds me of the Aten a bit. Like Trivial Psychic said, I'm not sure on the bays too, they seem better to be left to a destroyer than a cruiser and the lower part could use a few more curves.

Is the BF Green a anti-capital beam?

 

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Re: Vasudan Cruiser, or my attempt at one
The description, the weapons mentioned, and the size of the fighterbays suggest a juggernaut, not a cruiser.
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From this angle it looks a lot like the Defiant.

 

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Re: Vasudan Cruiser, or my attempt at one
The description, the weapons mentioned, and the size of the fighterbays suggest a juggernaut, not a cruiser.
Yes.
7 BF Green Beam turrets are on so far. Dunno if I got too many BF Greens? Still to come are Medium beam turrets and slashers plus Anti-Fighter/Bomber turrets.
This also has two Fighter bay
Even one BFGreen is far too much for a cruiser (one in the FreeSpace universe, anyway). I think you might be confusing "cruiser" for a larger ship class, as cruisers tend to not have too many capital-calibre beams (and they usually have small ones, such as the SGreen for Terran ships and the SVas for Vasudan ships). Having a significant number of anti-fighter beams is fair game for a cruiser (the Leviathan has four), but not too many capital-calibre beams (the most a retail FS2 ship has is three - on the Rakshasa). As Woolie said, the armament you wish to add suggests that you want a superdestroyer or juggernaut rather than a cruiser.

I don't intend to put you off, though - you have quite a nice model here. It's nice to have a new Vasudan capital ship, so keep on working on it. :)

 

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Re: Vasudan Cruiser, or my attempt at one
Generally speaking nice work and it certainly has a vasudan feel to it, as for the fighter bay you can just as easily say it is two entry points for the same bay, lets face it the vasudans have launch tubes on both canon destroyer designs.

Criticism
- The armament as mentioned by others, to be honest if you halve the big beam count to 4-5 and use bgreen you have a nice heavy corvette (800 meters long or so), if you go down that route you dont want any intermediate sized beams just a good scattering of ant fighter weaponry (perhaps 4-5 AF type beams and some flack, you already have blobs which is good)
- The multi part turrets, something about them says terran to me, I think it is because the shape is very similar to what is used on many "terran" ships and not just from FS, not sure how to fix that though.

All in all, the shape is good, I love the "spine" and the bank of engines at the back.  cant wait to see what you do with this
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Re: Vasudan Cruiser, or my attempt at one
I really like the shape, but yeah, I think ou have your scales wrong for Freespace. Cruisers should be, well, no more than 400, 450m long before you hit corvette territory.

Ditch the fighterbays, and make it a 350m long mentu replacement though, and you'll have a winner I reckon, with the right texture job. And I guarantee you it'd see a lot more use as a cruiser than as a juggernaut. :nod:
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If by "Vasudan Cruiser" you mean "Destroyer with less fighters and more guns" then it's OK, (though beams should be BVas, not BFGreens, since the latter are Terran and of a very large calibre). That designation wouldn't be correct in FS though, so it should be called a "Destroyer".

 
Re: Vasudan Cruiser, or my attempt at one
Hi guys and thanks for all your input! Honestly I'm glad the basic design is acceptable and yes I too had the Aten on my mind as I really liked the basic design of that one. Ok, Fighter bays are going to go as yes this is a Cruiser and really, it makes me feel better deleting them anyway. As for the beams, yes I'll go with the SVas since I have the turrets shown as I was thinking of making them like Trashmans, Battleship he has. The "scales" are actually somewhat like what you see on the GVD Psamtik destroyer's spine. Keep in mind, these are not the final look as I will smooth them some along with the rest of the ship once I get everything there. next up will be the smaller Anti-fighter/Bomber turrets with tipple barrels.

So now I'd like your opinions on how many slashers (if the Vasudans had that?) I might incorporate on this? good idea? No?

Thanks all!

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The first render put me off slightly, but then I saw all the others, and specially the back is very well done! Congrats. I do appreciate your comments viz a viz fighter bays, and I also think that with the right texturing, this will be awesome!

 

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You should totally turn those fighterbays into missile launchers, missiles are awesome.
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Re: Vasudan Cruiser, or my attempt at one
Humm....Missile bays....now that's something different! Let me work on that and see. Thanks again for all the help and suggestions!
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Actually, the Vasudans DO have a type of missile... the Vasudan Flux Cannon.  As for beam firepower, I'd say 2 forward-dorsal, 2 aft-ventral.  To improve the firing arc, I'd say make the forward beams in sort of cheek-mounts, rather than those two bumps that look to be turrets between the forward prongs.  I also stand by my statement that it needs to be a bit chunkier.
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I actually sort of like the shape of the multipart turrets--they make me think of the Thoth or Seth fighters.  I think it's the long, tank-like barrels that make them look terran to me.  Maybe you could snub them off or do something more unorthodox with that?  Also, the spine plating in the aft looks like a good idea to me, but I think the length of each plate and curvature from plate to plate as viewed from the side could be made more graceful without making it look overtly human.  Overall I dig the shape, and the engines are especially nice.

 

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Oh, speaking of missiles...

...You really ought to try and use the flux cannon - I'd love to see that used for once.

In general, I really love the shape. I would state that the engines, though bound to be fairly unnoticable, are more Terran than Vasudan. I'd reference the new Hattie if a revision is up your avenue. The heavy gun turrets also look quite Terran, but I'm not sure how you'd make them more "Vasudan-ish" without arriving at a silly, impractical design. Other than that, you win, Sir!

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The Flux Cannon might be a bit heavy for it, I recall it being a Destroyer weapon.

 

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Nothing uses the Flux Cannon.
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But Typhoon was supposed to, not to mention it actual DPS may be close (IIRC) to BGreen.

 

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It's 'Typhon', not 'Typhoon' you boob.
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