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Offline Luis Dias

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
I don't believe that's on the table.

I think at best we can convince the Shivans we're too much trouble to wipe out.

You're being pessimistic.

Think different.

Think big.

Think Gargant...

 

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 :blah:

 

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
I don't believe that's on the table.

I think at best we can convince the Shivans we're too much trouble to wipe out.

You're being pessimistic.

Think different.

Think big.

Think Gargant...

Yes, the GTVA needs to capture a Gargant and ram it into the Shivan home base!
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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
Yes, the GTVA needs to capture a Gargant and ram it into the Shivan home base!
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Offline Luis Dias

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
I don't believe that's on the table.

I think at best we can convince the Shivans we're too much trouble to wipe out.

You're being pessimistic.

Think different.

Think big.

Think Gargant...

Yes, the GTVA needs to capture a Gargant and ram it into the Shivan home base!

Now here's a plan! Now GTVA only has to find a Gargant that doesn't show too much signs of the usual and, quite frankly, getting old, irritability towards terruvans. Let's discuss more about this issue, I think it's a very important point that I'm sure every Fredder in here is begging to make an input. To the Gargant I mean.

 

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
If the Terrans were able toe Terranify a Sathanas (which doesn't look Terran, it just looks gray and robolike), than Terran-Zodifying a Gargant and ramming it into Shivantown would remove the awkwardness produced by the one-sided Terran-esque Colossus design.


Say, maybe some team could actually make a campaign based on Volition's plans? (or is there already one)?
With the rapid increase of FS fan-made campaigns, we're giving the GTVA a harder time with more violence and genocide.

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
Think different.

Think big.

Think Gargant...

I am thinking different. I'm pretty sure I'm the only person you'll find on the forums arguing for a military-based solution that doesn't result in somebody's race dying. :P
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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
Honestly, I don't think any sort of military solution would have brought an end to the Shivan threat.  I honestly feel like Blue Planet probably comes closest to the mark with the concept of trying to figure out just what the Shivans' beef with the GTVA is, and then finding a way to eliminate said beef.   Now obviously BP represents a very different style of storytelling than retail FS, but I think you could pull it off in that more traditional style too.

 

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
The problem is that assumes you can eliminate said beef, and I'm not sure, especially after the answered offered here suggesting Bosch is probably dead or suffering a fate worse than, and the Shivans might be rogue VN's, that this is possible.

If they just go berserk at the possibility of sentient life, then there's really no way to end it except to hope that they can be destroyed or convinced the task is not possible. Or die.
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I could accept some sort of "perpetual war" scenario, where the GTVA gets some kind of effective Sath killing tech (maybe a sniper beam or something that can quickly eliminate those turrets), and just holds their own against Shivan attacks every thirty odd years.
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I could accept some sort of "perpetual war" scenario, where the GTVA gets some kind of effective Sath killing tech (maybe a sniper beam or something that can quickly eliminate those turrets), and just holds their own against Shivan attacks every thirty odd years.

I've always thought that in the short-medium term the GTVA would concentrate on destroying nodes - placing large ships filled with Meson bombs in every major inhabited system and deploying them to the source of any future incursion.
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Offline Luis Dias

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Well, nothing lasts forever. So, in a wider perspective, either (1) the terrudans will kill each other, (2) shivans will kill terrudans, (3) terrudans evolve beyond shivans and tame shivans, (4) terrudans kill shivantown, (5) all the three species go extinct by themselves or in the midst of a war between them, (6) a fourth species comes and wipes all the other three out, (7) some environmental disaster ends the conflict, (8) the universe ends in a nanosecond without notice.

In each of the 8 alternatives, there's a whole range of stories waiting to be told (and the last one with a douglas adamsian tone).

 

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
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(1) the terrudans will kill each other

Possible, but certainly won't Volition refuse to anger the Zod fans?

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(2) shivans will kill terrudans

In which case, the player's race is doomed. Not possible, though not impossible.

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, (3) terrudans evolve beyond shivans and tame shivans

:wtf: The only way I imagine Terrudanity doing this might be via an Ancient-based "fling a light into the future" weapon or something of the sort, something mystical that can kiss the ass of even the most menacing species in the galaxy (recall Halo's extermination of the Flood using the Halo Array). That said, Sushistorian will most likely be gratified :yes:

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(4) terrudans kill shivantown

Like I said, this will probably come out with some sort of Ancient-based superweapon or some kind of mystical Divine Intervention by whatever elderly race.

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(5) all the three species go extinct by themselves or in the midst of a war between them

:wtf: like the first one.

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(6) a fourth species comes and wipes all the other three out

Hmm...Nightmares, anyone? This can be possible, but again, the player's own race be wiped out??

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(7) some environmental disaster ends the conflict

Certainly no if by mere chance, and by surprise. It will be :wtf: for the Freespace community.

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(8) the universe ends in a nanosecond without notice.

Let us all create a mega-supernova SEXP in FRED!!!

« Last Edit: March 11, 2011, 08:57:27 am by Marcov »
With the rapid increase of FS fan-made campaigns, we're giving the GTVA a harder time with more violence and genocide.

~FreeSpace: The Battle of Endor (voice dub)~
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9K9-Y1JBTE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtQanXDRAXM
Part 3/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBLKYt_oG0

Old (original) videos:
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ygskaoUtE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0uoPTksBlI

 

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
I don't think Volition would have been dumb enough to pull the whole 'ancient benevolent race' thing.

And Marcov I hope you understand that there is no FreeSpace 3 in the works.

 

Offline Luis Dias

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idk, in mass effect, the "ancient benevolent race" worked rather well.

Now that I think of it, the roles of ancients in both games is rather similar.

(And so are the red beams coming out of sovereign's arms...)

 

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
I don't think Volition would have been dumb enough to pull the whole 'ancient benevolent race' thing.

Deus Ex Machina..

God comes down and removes Shivans from existance.
Then the Rapture begins...
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Offline Luis Dias

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
I don't think Volition would have been dumb enough to pull the whole 'ancient benevolent race' thing.

Deus Ex Machina..

God comes down and removes Shivans from existance.
Then the Rapture begins...

... And then all GTVA space is freed from the genocidals and the lunatics, in one single blow!

Gentleman, we have a winner.

 

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Gentleman, we have a winner.
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