[headdie]

I feel pretty content with FS2's ending. Aside from the NTF storyline, which without any resolution, was just filler which he basically admitted.

Answer me this then, how did the shivans get into gamma draconis?

[Androgeos Exeunt]

The NTF caught their attention, and then they decided to explore the space beyond the Knossos.

That doesn't really make the NTF rebellion filler, in hindsight, so now it's better than good filler.

[headdie]

thats the point i was making lol there are key events in the story line which are reliant on the NTF, heck without them sending the trinity the Knossos would have remained dormant for probably centuries to come and so never reopening the node to the nebula

[Androgeos Exeunt]

In fact, the Second Shivan Incursion happened because the NTF turned on the Knossos at Gamma Dracs and sent the Trinity in to look around, didn't it? If the NTF didn't turn on the Knossos, the Shivans might have left the Terrans and Vasudans alone.

[Luis Dias]

In fact, the Second Shivan Incursion happened because the NTF turned on the Knossos at Gamma Dracs and sent the Trinity in to look around, didn't it? If the NTF didn't turn on the Knossos, the Shivans might have left the Terrans and Vasudans alone.

Yeah, but what the writer meant is that the NTF part was a McGuffin. We start a game with the "biggest" threat out there, which is the NTF rebellion. Most of the game, GTVA is worried about the NTF, not the shivans. So much so that the shivans are treated as a weak marginal problem that they have to deal with. Only when the biggest destroyers come does the GTVA realise (and the player) that these marginal problems aren't marginal at all, and that the NTF "issue" was the marginal one.

[Ulala]

I know it's already been said a hundred times, but many thanks to everyone that made this possible. Mad props to General Battuta (and Goober!), I really appreciate what you have done here. It's almost surreal getting to pick the brain of Jason Scott so many years later. I feel somehow even more fulfilled by all the joy Freespace has brought me, from learning to FRED at 13 all the way to running through the game with the latest SCP/FSU works every now and again to this very day. Cheers, guys!

[Sololop]

Kinda off topic, but where did the Shivans come from originally in FS1? They just "Showed up." I never understood where they came from.

On topic, yeah, it was not the smartest to consider the Shivans not a critical be-all and end-all threat to their very existence right off the bat.

[Fearless Leader]

#$%^! That was good, we need more interview!

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Kinda off topic, but where did the Shivans come from originally in FS1? They just "Showed up." I never understood where they came from.

They came out of nowhere and started killing everybody.

[Fearless Leader]

Kinda off topic, but where did the Shivans come from originally in FS1? They just "Showed up." I never understood where they came from.

They came out of nowhere and started killing everybody.

They had these death black ships and the flew like something, and their weapons were too much

[Bobboau]

Kinda off topic, but where did the Shivans come from originally in FS1? They just "Showed up." I never understood where they came from.

They came out of nowhere and started killing everybody.

They had these death black ships and the flew like something, and their weapons were too much

they wasted everybody

[Fearless Leader]

Kinda off topic, but where did the Shivans come from originally in FS1? They just "Showed up." I never understood where they came from.

They came out of nowhere and started killing everybody.

They had these death black ships and the flew like something, and their weapons were too much

they wasted everybody

Send fighters

[IronBeer]

Kinda off topic, but where did the Shivans come from originally in FS1? They just "Showed up." I never understood where they came from.

They came out of nowhere and started killing everybody.

They had these death black ships and the flew like something, and their weapons were too much

they wasted everybody

Send fighters

I know they're following me! Send everything you have now!

[Mongoose]

Man, you people missed the "Who came out of nowhere, pilot?!"

(Also, let's try not to spam-a-lam this particular thread.)

[MatthTheGeek]

Jeeze dude, there's noone in scope. Chill out, it'll be A1-supar.

[Nuclear1]

Jeeze dude, there's noone in scope. Chill out, it'll be A1-supar.

no you noob it won't you weren't there

[Mars]

They had these death black ships and shiz, they ****ed up everybody

[T-LoW]

OMG allright we'll send some recovery-bro over to get your weepy arse safely to us you sissy

[The E]

Okay, I think that's enough. Closing topic due to increasing trollishness and offtopicality.

[General Battuta]

aaaaaahahahaha wow

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