[Dr.Zer0]

I mean, he alredy knew about what Osama was planing

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/05/16/bush.sept.11/index.html

[Ulundel]

to break that link here...?

[aldo_14]

you will bring us.....a shrubbery!


oh....wrong Bush.

[Ulundel]

tsk, tsk, tsk. I've always known it, ALWAYS. Bush is evil

[DragonClaw]

I actually think he might have had a good reason not releasing the information. He's got a cabinet ya know. Say he released the information, people would be afraid to fly on airplanes for awhile. Economy gets real bad (look at what happened when the planes _were_ hijacked, airlines were dying)

Now that its happened, everyone thinks its wrong.

Doubt that Al Gore would have given a **** anyway.

[Razor]

Originally posted by Ten of Twelve
tsk, tsk, tsk. I've always known it, ALWAYS. Bush is evil

Finally! I was affraid that Americans have always been blinded by their leaders.

Oh come on people wake up! I belive Clinton was a mad man. He was sick! I don't know about Bush and I am not very interested in what he is doing out there.

But can someone please answer this to me? Why does American government always take a course of millitary action even when it is not needed? That has always puzzled me.

[Dr.Zer0]

Originally posted by Razor


Finally! I was affraid that Americans have always been blinded by their leaders.

Oh come on people wake up! I belive Clinton was a mad man. He was sick! I don't know about Bush and I am not very interested in what he is doing out there.

But can someone please answer this to me? Why does American government always take a course of millitary action even when it is not needed? That has always puzzled me.

uhh, so the military dosent just become almost useless in peace time

[Zeronet]

Originally posted by Razor


Finally! I was affraid that Americans have always been blinded by their leaders.

Oh come on people wake up! I belive Clinton was a mad man. He was sick! I don't know about Bush and I am not very interested in what he is doing out there.

But can someone please answer this to me? Why does American government always take a course of millitary action even when it is not needed? That has always puzzled me.

If everyone thought like you we'd all be dead, because the news for you is the world aint very nice. Anthrax, nerve gas, dirty nukes. And that happy man Saddamn Hussain is trying to get as much of those as possible, to blow us westerners into no, not the stone age, into oblivion. Military action is always needed when evil exists, we helped kick out the taliban and by doing that, you have Afgans freedom. Something im sure you value and something North Korea and Iraq dont have much of.

[Zeronet]

Originally posted by Dr.Zer0
I mean, he alredy knew about what Osama was planing

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/05/16/bush.sept.11/index.html

On September the 10th, if you had told me a bunch of Muslims were going to hijack planes and blow up skyscapers, i'd of laughed and called you mad. Your getting too high on this thing called hindsight.

[phreak]

i think that the government knew a terrorist attack was about to occur, but no one would have guessed it would be as bad as 9/11

edit: and i think this backs it up

"The president did not receive information of the use of airplanes as missiles by suicide bombers," he said. "This was a new type of attack that had not been foreseen. As a result, a series of changes and improvements have been made to the way the United States deals with a terrorist threat."
-Ari Fleischer

[Styxx]

Pfft. Like they could have done anything...

[Zeronet]

Originally posted by Styxx
Pfft. Like they could have done anything...

Well if they had known they were gonna use planes they could of shot them down, does Brazilian Military have Fighterplanes and Surface to Air missiles?

[Razor]

Originally posted by Zeronet


If everyone thought like you we'd all be dead, because the news for you is the world aint very nice. Anthrax, nerve gas, dirty nukes. And that happy man Saddamn Hussain is trying to get as much of those as possible, to blow us westerners into no, not the stone age, into oblivion. Military action is always needed when evil exists, we helped kick out the taliban and by doing that, you have Afgans freedom. Something im sure you value and something North Korea and Iraq dont have much of.

Ok then. But what the heck did you do in Vietnam? Were you establishing peace? Oh I forgot yes you did and you lost the war!!

Ok the Afghanistan thing is clear. The Taliban did attack the US and ok nato had to do something about it, but if I remember quite well, nato also attacked countries that have never attacked US and it's allies. You are obviously too blind not to see the injustice that was commited by your ''peacekeepers'' about say, 3 years ago.

[Zeronet]

I dunno, you tell ME what Britain did in the Vietnam war?

[Kellan]

To clarify, Zeronet is from England - Wigan or somewhere.

[Zeronet]

Warrington.

[phreak]

Originally posted by Zeronet
I dunno, you tell ME what Britain did in the Vietnam war?

nothing, but Austrailia (close enough) did send troops.

Vietnam was a war of containment/domino theory.  The thinking of the time was that if South Vietnam fell to communism, then the neighboring countries would fall until you had a Soviet-backed commie regime right up against a Western ally.  Oh, don't listen to the media about Vietnam, they twisted the war to make it seem like we were losing when we were winning.  The only reason we "lost" Vietnam was the Johnson was micromanaging the war where he would do all the general's work.  Hitler did the same thing starting in the middle of WWII and look what happened.

[Zeronet]

The Media does twist things a lot. Its quite true Austrailia by a technicality comes under British territory in some way(as their head of state is the same as my head of state the "Queen".)

[killadonuts]

You know F.D Roosevelt knew Pearl Harbor was coming.
He just let it happen to create a political excuse to enter the war.
Besides, He knew that war would end the depression and at the same time he would gain popularity. (Not unlike Bush)

America is run by idiots and one day it will burn to the ground.
We will probably live to see it too.

[Stryke 9]

Meh. There's no proof the government more than suspected that Pearl Harbor was happening, and there are terrorist threats all the time. This isn't exactly news- I see you haven't seen the reports on some of the more outrageous acts of incompetence the government went through with evidence of the hijackings. I mean, in one case the FBI HAD one of the guys in prison as a suspected potential hijacker, but didn't search his stuff!

And, all in all, I can't be as hard on Bush anymore as I'd like to. At least, not about foreign policy. He's a jingoistic cowboy bastard, but somebody very shrewd is holding the reins, who's put a great deal of care into damage control. It's astounding how well the government avoided turning Afghanistan into another Vietnam or getting us bio-bombed by Saddam.