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Offline Sandwich

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Has GameSpy been naughty?
Got this email from the "Serious Sam" boards:

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Due to problems with our hosts, Gamespy, our forums have been moved off of their servers.  You can now find them at http://www.seriouscommunity.com/  Gamespy continually interfered with our site, breaking and modifying things without our permission on numerous ocassions, and we're not putting up with it any longer.  The damage they have already done to the community we have worked hard to build has already created a state of bedlam, and in order to help build and maintain one of the best gaming communities around, we have decided to move the forums and file system to our own server.  Everything else will be the same, but you can expect things to improve significantly.  One of the first things we've changed are the banners.  You'll now find banners shown that relate to gaming and your interests.  If you're thinking of buying a new game, see if you can do it through one of our banners.  It doesn't cost you more, and it helps support (what should be ;) your favorite gaming site.

Rest assured though, we think of every decision we make in terms of how it will affect the community.  Money always takes a back seat.

You can read more information about this in the following thread - http://forums.seriouscommunity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14562

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Offline an0n

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Has GameSpy been naughty?
They shoulda checked the T&C's of usage.
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Offline CP5670

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Was that a "planet" site? I think it is a very good idea HLP decided not to become one of those, since all of the planet sites must follow a certain format in every way; essentially, Gamespy tells you how to run your site, probably including forums. :p

 

Offline Martinus

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Originally posted by an0n
They shoulda checked the T&C's of usage.


If you read the post you'll notice that they did read the T&C's it seems he was banned for some remarks he made.

In my experience GS has been pretty helpful regarding HLP *shrugs*

 

Offline TheVirtu

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Has GameSpy been naughty?
It wasnt Gamespy's place to be trying to take over their forums, I've had hints of them being evil, but I never expected something like this.
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Offline an0n

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Has GameSpy been naughty?
Hmmmm. Upon reading the linked thread I have come to a conclusion. Gamespy didn't want to back down. If they'd have asked for him to removed, in all likelyhood nothing would have been done and he woulda been allowed to roam freely. This would have ended up in a showdown between the Serious peeps and GS, inevitably resulting in the Serious peeps losing everything. They did what they had to to preserve the community as a whole.
"I.....don't.....CARE!!!!!" ---- an0n
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Offline TheVirtu

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Has GameSpy been naughty?
But anything would have been better than invading them, at least sent him emails telling him whatever, and they would invade if he refused todo whatever.
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Offline an0n

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Originally posted by TheVirtu
But anything would have been better than invading them, at least sent him emails telling him whatever, and they would invade if he refused todo whatever.

Yeah, and it woulda given them time to fortify and neccesitate harsher methods of invasion.
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Offline TheVirtu

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Has GameSpy been naughty?
Fortify from what? Gamespy controls the forum server.
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Offline an0n

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Has GameSpy been naughty?
There are ways of securing data and making it extremely difficult to remove.
"I.....don't.....CARE!!!!!" ---- an0n
"an0n's right. He's crazy, an asshole, not to be trusted, rarely to be taken seriously, and never to be allowed near your mother. But, he's got a knack for being right. In the worst possible way he can find." ---- Yuppygoat
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Offline CP5670

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In my opinion Gamespy itself has just turned into one of these sprawling corporate bureaucracies - the Fileplanet system is proof of that - but the websites are all run by fans, so it's not too bad. ;)

 

Offline Stryke 9

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Has GameSpy been naughty?
See, this is DIRECT evidence of the sort of thing that happens when you ban me!

 

Offline Fineus

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Has GameSpy been naughty?
The only thing that would happen if we banned you would be it'd be a lot calmer around here :)

So far Gamespy have been a great host, considering all that we get access to as a site for free I think they're well within their bounds to lay certain rules down. So far we've managed fine by these rules and I don't see that changing unless they do something you might expect of Microsoft like trying to take direct control over all content hosted on their servers.

But this is un-necessary panicking, we're perfectly fine here. If - although I find this unlikely - GS did try something we'd move else where. But I've seen no evidence of this and therefore we're ok as we are. Oh, and try not to bash them too much guys - we are hosted by them. Can't let that kinda thing go on.

 

Offline Stryke 9

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And duller.


Anyway, yeah. I don't exactly act just the same way on EVERY forum... in this case I had asked them very nicely to turn over an offender, and they banned me and half a dozen others... not very sensible, if you ask me, considering the bad luck it brings...

 

Offline Zeronet

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Has GameSpy been naughty?
GS does a lot for the community though, like all the planet sites etc.
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Offline Redfang

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Originally posted by Thunder
But this is un-necessary panicking, we're perfectly fine here. If - although I find this unlikely - GS did try something we'd move else where. But I've seen no evidence of this and therefore we're ok as we are. Oh, and try not to bash them too much guys - we are hosted by them. Can't let that kinda thing go on.

 
Nice. :):yes:

 

Offline Stryke 9

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Gamespy evil! Eeee-viiiil!


OK, maybe Thunder's right...:D

I'll go rant where I can get some sympathy now...

 

Offline Fineus

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You do that :)

 

Offline Stryke 9

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:eek2:


I was just reminded of why I left there in the first place...

Er... perhaps... models, yes? I'll go post some. Yeah.

 

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