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Offline Grizzly

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On Nine slash Eleven as a historic event.
on: September 08, 2011, 02:55:38 am
Two Articles which are quite sceptic on if 9/11 really was this 'turning point in history' as many make it to be.
 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: On Nine slash Eleven as a historic event.
Reply #1 on: September 09, 2011, 05:52:15 pm
Even calling it a detour implies you had to turn. Sorry first article, you refute yourself in your own title.

Turning points in history is inherently subjective to both definition and experience.
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Offline Mars

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Re: On Nine slash Eleven as a historic event.
Reply #2 on: September 09, 2011, 07:58:14 pm
I'd have to say, US nationalism and optimism have not been the same since. The way that people look at the government is different. . . if there was to be a single turning point in history, 9/11 is one.
 

Offline Enzo03

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Re: On Nine slash Eleven as a historic event.
Reply #3 on: September 09, 2011, 08:45:13 pm
Sure, on an American scale, not necessarily a worldwide scale.
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Offline Mars

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Re: On Nine slash Eleven as a historic event.
Reply #4 on: September 09, 2011, 09:32:31 pm
Quote from: Enzo03 on September 09, 2011, 08:45:13 pm
Sure, on an American scale, not necessarily a worldwide scale.

Well, we have had something of a hegemony going on for a while, and that appears to be not only fading, but utterly collapsing, so a global scale, yes.
 

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Re: On Nine slash Eleven as a historic event.
Reply #5 on: September 10, 2011, 05:48:17 am
Damn. I have to use Google Translate for this one
 

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Re: On Nine slash Eleven as a historic event.
Reply #6 on: September 10, 2011, 11:23:59 pm
Another article about the impacts of September 11 - puts a lot of what I think about it's role in the past few decades much more eloquently than I ever could.

http://smh.com.au/opinion/politics/sifting-through-the-debris-for-real-legacy-of-attacks-20110910-1k2md.html
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Re: On Nine slash Eleven as a historic event.
Reply #7 on: September 10, 2011, 11:34:09 pm
The government, since the 1960's, has dropped drastically. Now, we have unrealible people that are greedy and poisoning America! No wonder parts of the world hates the USA.
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Re: On Nine slash Eleven as a historic event.
Reply #8 on: September 10, 2011, 11:43:34 pm
Wait wait wait. Are you implying the government was NOT full of unreliable, greedy people poisoning America before the '60s? Because you know... that's how it's always been really.
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Offline Mars

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Re: On Nine slash Eleven as a historic event.
Reply #9 on: September 10, 2011, 11:44:45 pm
Quote from: Firstdragon34 on September 10, 2011, 11:34:09 pm
The government, since the 1960's, has dropped drastically. Now, we have unrealible people that are greedy and poisoning America! No wonder parts of the world hates the USA.

. . . :wtf:
 

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Reply #10 on: September 11, 2011, 12:00:36 am
Quote from: redsniper on September 10, 2011, 11:43:34 pm
Wait wait wait. Are you implying the government was NOT full of unreliable, greedy people poisoning America before the '60s? Because you know... that's how it's always been really.

it seems to be getting worse though.  or more likely, we just know about more of it.
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Reply #11 on: September 11, 2011, 12:34:51 am
I think you guys are just idealizing the past. Governments have always been **** and they're less **** now than they've been in a long time. I mean can you imagine if we still had monarchies, with a king doing WTFever he pleased?

What I'd be worried about is this god-damned war economy we've got going on and corporations having too much sway over the government.
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Offline JCDNWarrior

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Re: On Nine slash Eleven as a historic event.
Reply #13 on: September 11, 2011, 03:36:00 am
Quote from: -Joshua- on September 11, 2011, 01:10:19 am
A more positive article

The comments of people on that article makes it very entertaining.
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Reply #14 on: September 11, 2011, 05:16:05 am
Just wanna say this in at least one nine eleven thread (I have started to just glaze over whenever I see "9/11" anywhere);

Ten years after Pearl Harbor were there fifty news articles a day on “remembering Pearl Harbor”?
 

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Re: On Nine slash Eleven as a historic event.
Reply #15 on: September 11, 2011, 05:26:44 am
Were there 24-hour news networks or the internet around when Pearl Harbor happened?
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Re: On Nine slash Eleven as a historic event.
Reply #16 on: September 11, 2011, 06:51:51 am
Or maybe the other 60 million dead stole some of the attention.
 

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Re: On Nine slash Eleven as a historic event.
Reply #17 on: September 11, 2011, 07:15:19 am
There's also the distinct lack of civilian casualties.
 

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Re: On Nine slash Eleven as a historic event.
Reply #18 on: September 11, 2011, 08:03:21 am
Who uses forum signatures anymore?
 

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Reply #19 on: September 11, 2011, 08:33:33 am
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