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Offline Slasher

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Are the subsystem entries on this Omega a 100% match with the old one?  When running a debug build I get a crash.
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Loading model 'omega.pof'
WARNING: "Not all subsystems in model "omega.pof" have a record in ships.tbl. This can cause game to crash.  List of subsystems not found from table is in log file." at modelread.cpp:636
Freeing all existing models...
ASSERTION: "idx < (int)GL_vertex_buffers.size()" at gropengltnl.cpp:420

I'm not sure which log file I should be checking for the missing subsystems...
[edit]Nevermind, I found them at the end of the FRED2_debug log.  The destroyed versions of the subsystems aren't listed in the vanilla TBP table entry.  How is destroyed geometry usually handled in the tables? 



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Those submodels should NOT have the "$special=subsystem" property set in PCS2. If there is a submodel named "rotator" that has that property, then the engine will automatically look for another submodel named "rotator-destroyed" and switch to that if the rotator subsystem receives lethal damage. There is no need to give the -destroyed submodel any properties.
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Offline Col. Fishguts

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Ah yes, that was on oversight when copying that submodel.
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So how's this coming?  I only have a few models left on the list to fix and this is one of them.  I'd rather just use this one if it's going to be ready.
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Offline Col. Fishguts

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RL caused some delays, but the only things missing are normal maps and the different nameplate maps. Both are WIP, so stay tuned.
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Normal maps are fun



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Every once in a while it pains me that I never FREDded anything for TBP.
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Some kick ass normal maps there :yes:

 

Offline Slasher

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Looking like the real HTL deal there.

 

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Sorry for posting in a old thread, but more praise is needed, good job. c:
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Offline Col. Fishguts

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So... *cough*

Thanks to free time during the holidays, I finally managed to finalize the normal maps (too many damn greebles), and now only the different nameplates maps are missing. I counted 71 in the core VPs and latest Zathras, but we're getting there:




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The day will come when TBP has better effects and models than the show. :D
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The day will come when TBP has better effects and models than the show. :D
The show was made in the '90s. Haven't we passed that quality a long time ago? :P
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<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
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<MageKing17> Everything points to "this should work fine", and yet it's clearly not working.
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One can argue it's different to do real time effects in an old engine than making rendered cutscenes with some of the best FX teams they had in their disposal at the time.

 

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One can argue it's different to do real time effects in an old engine than making rendered cutscenes with some of the best FX teams they had in their disposal at the time.
Of course it's different. If someone wanted to make prerendered visuals to exceed Babylon 5's professional CG, that was already done on consumer hardware in 2005... 8 (going on 9) years ago.
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<MageKing17> "There's probably a reason the code is the way it is" is a very dangerous line of thought. :P
<MageKing17> Because the "reason" often turns out to be "nobody noticed it was wrong".
(the very next day)
<MageKing17> this ****ing code did it to me again
<MageKing17> "That doesn't really make sense to me, but I'll assume it was being done for a reason."
<MageKing17> **** ME
<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
<MageKing17> ESPECIALLY ME

<MageKing17> God damn, I do not understand how this is breaking.
<MageKing17> Everything points to "this should work fine", and yet it's clearly not working.
<MjnMixael> 2 hours later... "God damn, how did this ever work at all?!"
(...)
<MageKing17> so
<MageKing17> more than two hours
<MageKing17> but once again we have reached the inevitable conclusion
<MageKing17> How did this code ever work in the first place!?

<@The_E> Welcome to OpenGL, where standards compliance is optional, and error reporting inconsistent

<MageKing17> It was all working perfectly until I actually tried it on an actual mission.

<IronWorks> I am useful for FSO stuff again. This is a red-letter day!
* z64555 erases "Thursday" and rewrites it in red ink

<MageKing17> TIL the entire homing code is held up by shoestrings and duct tape, basically.

 

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There were some higher detailed models (for some ships) show in "The Lost Tales", but they overdid the bloom on those shots.
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Hmph... I saw Omega somewhere else... In a movie. Looked nice, too.
But this is hell of a work. N_N_N_N_N_ice.

^It was a parody "Star Wreck: The Pirkinning" :)

And when i look at the front i see similarities to BP's Karuna...
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Hmph... I saw Omega somewhere else... In a movie. Looked nice, too.
But this is hell of a work. N_N_N_N_N_ice.

^It was a parody "Star Wreck: The Pirkinning" :)

And when i look at the front i see similarities to BP's Karuna...

Correction: When you see the Karuna, you see similarities to the Omega (which in turn took inspiration from Syd Mead's Alexei Leonov from the film 2010).
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Can't wait to see the final version in a FSO shadow build!