[T-LoW]

Te quiero tanto

[Ulala]

I think it looks great. The tail fins or spades or arrowheads or whatever they are do look a little flimsy and thin though. I'd suggest beefing them up just a tad, but other than that, I love it!

[Herra Tohtori]

Not sure if like the engines on the sides of the bow section of the ship. They seem like unsightly protrusions and don't really flow with the rest of the design. In the original model, they're sort of "embedded" in the lower rear corners of the "head" of the ship, and I think that ought be retained.

Maybe make a "hole" for the engine blocks first and shape that so it looks good, then model the engines into those holes so that they don't change the overall profle of the ship's forward section so much?

Rest is A-1 supar.

[FreeSpaceFreak]

Warning: Everything that follows is my highly personal and subjective opinion. No offence is intended, regardless of my phrasing.

• The armour layers on the back of the hull do work, but on the fins they don't. It could be the pattern, or the number of layers... It just doesn't seem to make sense.
• The connections of the fins to the main hull look flimsy, one well-placed Cyclops would blow those things right off. Two more compact, sturdier joints might work better than one big one.
• The main engines look tentacley. I can see the Hatshepsut's influence, but IMHO it either needs to be more similar or less similar. This just looks weird.
• As mentioned before, the front engines look tacked on and dangerously exposed. I suggest extending the armour plating on the head to cover the engines too (at least on the top and the sides, the bottom looks alright).

But damn, I wish I could model like that...

[Rodo]

I like it, you did a good job adding a fresh renewed look to a somewhat poor model, the retail textures do not offer any kind of clue on how an htl version should look like and I must say I love your inventive.
Only one thing to complain, personally I don't like the pattern you chose for the fins (on the front part), I would have used something like the texture pattern on the Bakha, you know the front upper part of that bomber model.

[Rga_Noris]

Thanks everyone for the input everyone. The rear fins and frontal engines will definitely be worked over. The head will see a thining in the upper the plate, to make seem more like an addition to an already thick hull, as opposed to patch to reinforce a weaker hull, as it looks now.

[TwentyPercentCooler]

I came, I saw, I came.

I think everyone else has covered the nitpicky points, so I'll just say it looks completely wicked. The good wicked, like early 90s wicked. Are the fins/nacelles/projections/thingamabobbers on the back intended to pivot or swing backwards? It almost looks like it. Could be interesting if they swung backwards to enfold and protect the engines (anyone else besides me wonder why all the retail ships, save maybe the Deimos, have such terribly protected engines?).

[CommanderDJ]

I came, I saw, I came.

I think everyone else has covered the nitpicky points, so I'll just say it looks completely wicked. The good wicked, like early 90s wicked. Are the fins/nacelles/projections/thingamabobbers on the back intended to pivot or swing backwards? It almost looks like it. Could be interesting if they swung backwards to enfold and protect the engines (anyone else besides me wonder why all the retail ships, save maybe the Deimos, have such terribly protected engines?).

Don't go down that road. Next you'll realise that all these ships' vital subsystems are easily accessible on the outer hull and not protected deeper within the ship.

[TwentyPercentCooler]

I came, I saw, I came.

I think everyone else has covered the nitpicky points, so I'll just say it looks completely wicked. The good wicked, like early 90s wicked. Are the fins/nacelles/projections/thingamabobbers on the back intended to pivot or swing backwards? It almost looks like it. Could be interesting if they swung backwards to enfold and protect the engines (anyone else besides me wonder why all the retail ships, save maybe the Deimos, have such terribly protected engines?).

Don't go down that road. Next you'll realise that all these ships' vital subsystems are easily accessible on the outer hull and not protected deeper within the ship.

Yeah, I know, Rule of Cool is king. But engines are the ones that you're most often asked to disable in the course of missions. I find it odd that there aren't more turrets covering them, or protruding armor plates, or...eh.

Either way, the model looks excellent. I can't wait to see it textured. 

[Commander Zane]

There's three AAAf turrets around the engines, that's quite a bit of protection short of having flak cannons on it (Deimos).

[Woolie Wool]

For the most part I really like this but I really think the full crescent from the original Sobek should be put on the new model in some form or another. It was the most prominent aspect of the ship, the feature that caught the player's eye first, and generally defined the ship to a great degree. Without the crescent shape the Sobek loses some of its identity.

[Rga_Noris]

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It's not that big of a feature I think... To be honest, I wasn't 100% sure which way the curve of it went before I examined the model. The first thing that sticks out is it's large head compared to the smaller body, three tail structures, skinny neck... And then maybe... maybe that arc.

EDIT: And what is it supposed to be anyways? I can guess at everything else on the Sobek except that crest, so I have no idea how to HTL it. It does not appear armore. It's not a window to the bridge on the account that it's texture is the same as areas that could not be. It looks like a place I would put a missile in an otherwise solid pieced hull... Or a slot to a pizza oven.

[TwentyPercentCooler]

There's three AAAf turrets around the engines, that's quite a bit of protection short of having flak cannons on it (Deimos).

Yeah, I did list the Deimos as being the exception in my original post. Too many experiences getting smacked by the AAA beams in "Pawns on a Board of Bone" in Blue Planet...oddly enough, those beams probably aren't as dangerous in retail because none of the missions have Shivans trying to disable Deimoses. Deimosi. Whatever. But hey, that's another discussion. I actually like the visual implication (so far, anyway, I have no idea if the texture will continue to foster this impression) that the engines could be protected, if the ship was stationary and protecting something or whatever, even if it's never actually a feature of the model. The Zods are savvy, it strikes me as something they'd do after the debacle of The Great War with capships being essentially hapless. Maybe it was Zod designers that slapped the AAA turrets on the Deimos, too, eh? I don't know if that was your intent, RGA, but I think it looks awesome and it seems to me to fit in with the Zods.

[Hades]

There's three AAAf turrets around the engines, that's quite a bit of protection short of having flak cannons on it (Deimos).

Only two, actually.

[Droid803]

Top fin doesn't have AAA.

[Mongoose]

Come to think of it, the Hatshepsut has pretty brutal defenses on its big rear end too.

[Commander Zane]

Top fin doesn't have AAA.

Huh. What was that one then?

[MatthTheGeek]

...Look at the pof and the tables, instead of randomly asking ?

[Commander Zane]

Oh, no turret at all.
Those two posts wern't very clear.

Though of course just answering instead of telling me what to do would've been just as good.

[MatthTheGeek]

Couldn't be arsed to. I wasn't the one interested in the answer to begin with