[Scourge of Ages]

in Soviet Russia everyone owns the cat.

Fixed that for you

[Mikes]

in Soviet Russia everyone owns the cat.

Fixed that for you

In Soviet Russia cat everyone owns eats you.

[The E]

In Soviet Cat, Russia eats you?

[NGTM-1R]

In Cat Russia, Soviet is eaten.

[Mikes]

In Russia Cat Soviet owns you.

[Dragon]

In Soviet Russia, cat owns everyone. 
It all makes sense now! The Cold War was because an American was late to feed the cat by 10 seconds! No wonder they wanted to nuke US...

[LordPomposity]

In Soviet Russia, thread derails you.

[Kosh]

Getting back on track when I heard about this the first thought that came to mind was the experience of keiko the whale. Keiko was the star a mid 90's disney type flick called free willy, and he had been moved from mexico city to the aquarium in newport oregon. This was a sensible move because he was not well in Mexico and became healthy again in the colder climate of Oregon. Where it gets sticky was when somebody had the idea to release him back into the wild, despite having spent nearly his whole life in captivity. So a temporary pen was built in Iceland to attempt to retrain him to survive on his own in the wild. What ended up happening was he ended up hanging around people and was not able to feed himself. Eventually he died by beaching himself because he had pnuemonia.

The animal rights people had their day and blew it big. Read all about it

[Pred the Penguin]

Maybe some of these PETA members might try surviving alone in the wild...

[Flipside]

In many ways, PETA is like the modern day Kellogg, he was on a war against masturbation, which is, of course, a war you simply are not going to win. I see PETA in much the same light with regards to eating meat.

[S-99]

That **** with cats doesn't fly with me. They fall out of line, i bop them on the head, look at them, and yell NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Cat's don't like this, they **** up less afterward.

[zookeeper]

In many ways, PETA is like the modern day Kellogg, he was on a war against masturbation, which is, of course, a war you simply are not going to win. I see PETA in much the same light with regards to eating meat.

Well, the difference is that eating animals (animals, not meat; no one objects to eating meat) is something that might conceivably drop to a small fraction of what it is now within the next couple hundred years or so. Unlike Kellogg, it seems pretty likely that at some point in the future, PETA will eventually win.

[The E]

Assumes advances in artificial meat production not yet in evidence.

[Flipside]

They will 'kind of' win, as in meat taken from slaughtered animals will, most likely be grown in labs instead (Though, as The E points out, we are actually a fair distance from creating and accepting that kind of product). It's certainly possible that sheer weight of need will, and does, force farming away from the more area-dependant techniques, such as crop farming and livestock, and more into things like Hydroponics and GM. But that's not truly a 'victory' for PETA, it's not been done for ethical reasons, it's not that we are concerned about the animals, it's that we are concerned about ourselves.

Fact is, whilst there are people who choose to be vegetarian, the vast majority of humanity eats animal life, whether it be insects, rodents, bovines, equines or any other type. Indeed, there's growing arguments that 'insect farming' may be another route to dealing with the resource problem, so I don't see PETA ever really succeeding in stopping humanity eating or exploiting animals.

[zookeeper]

They will 'kind of' win, as in meat taken from slaughtered animals will, most likely be grown in labs instead (Though, as The E points out, we are actually a fair distance from creating and accepting that kind of product). It's certainly possible that sheer weight of need will, and does, force farming away from the more area-dependant techniques, such as crop farming and livestock, and more into things like Hydroponics and GM. But that's not truly a 'victory' for PETA, it's not been done for ethical reasons, it's not that we are concerned about the animals, it's that we are concerned about ourselves.

Fact is, whilst there are people who choose to be vegetarian, the vast majority of humanity eats animal life, whether it be insects, rodents, bovines, equines or any other type. Indeed, there's growing arguments that 'insect farming' may be another route to dealing with the resource problem, so I don't see PETA ever really succeeding in stopping humanity eating or exploiting animals.

Agreed on all counts, but I guess I was referring more to the kind of practices of exploiting animals which are the driving force behind PETA and the animal rights movement in general. So, sure, they won't ever really succeed as in achieving everything they'd want to, but things like factory and fur farming and the like which account for 90% of what they really want to end, might in the long term (mostly) end.

[Nuke]

in cat russia, soviets pet you (if youre a member of the feline master race)

[karajorma]

Unlike Kellogg, it seems pretty likely that at some point in the future, PETA will eventually win.

It depends on whether you are talking about their sane or insane goals. They'll never get an end to people owning pets for instance. Or using horse drawn carriages. Or letting kids ride on elephants.

When it comes to meat, it will require someone figuring out how to make it another way. Meat simply tastes too good for humans to give it up.

[Nuke]

humans are naturally omnivorous. it took the invention of agriculture to make a meat free diet anywhere near practical, and i still have doubts that it is. also livestock gives you the capability to convert non-nutritional resources (grass) into nutritional products (beef).

[bobbtmann]

Well, the difference is that eating animals (animals, not meat; no one objects to eating meat) is something that might conceivably drop to a small fraction of what it is now within the next couple hundred years or so. Unlike Kellogg, it seems pretty likely that at some point in the future, PETA will eventually win.

I agree. If things continue headed in the direction they are now, I think PETA will probably win. The line between "animal" and human is getting fuzzier all the time. Eventually people will realize that granting humans the right to life and not, say, chimpanzees, is rather arbitrary and based on old fashioned ideas like having a soul.

[The E]

As long as Bacon is delicious, I believe there's always going to be a market for raising, killing, and then turning pigs into it.

PETA, delusional first-world idiots that they are, will not change that. The only thing that could would be to find a way to produce equal-quality bacon without involving pigs, at the same or a better price than traditional pig-based methods.