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Offline watsisname

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Just finished Kim Robinson's Shaman, which follows the life of a young boy destined to become his pack's shaman during a very rough period of the Ice Age ~30,000 years ago.  Very richly imagined as is typical of Robinson, but I felt it was too slow and I had a hard time staying invested in it.  Got really good about halfway through though.  I'd recommend it if you like his other work, but otherwise try the Red Mars trilogy; it's still his best.

Just started Buzz Aldrin's Men From Earth.  I've read a few other books by Apollo astronauts, but the character of this one seems so far the most relevant to my interests.  I'm really liking it so far.
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Wrapped Up:

John Scalzi's The Sagan Diary

B.V. Larson's Steel World
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Rereading 'Falling Free' by Lois Bujold.

No doubt about it, these characters are the most naive abominations of science I've ever come across.
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Andrzej Pilipiuk: Chronicles of Jakub Wędrowycz. I don't know if it's translated to English, but if it is i hardly recommend it. While reading you propably make "LOL" and get +20 to good humor.
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Right in the middle of "Consider Phlebas" by Banks.
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"Zen Buddhism and a Psychoanalysis" [or some similar title] by Erich Fromm ...and I don't get the guy o__O.
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Wrapped Up:

Phillip K. Dick's The Skull

Marko Kloos' Terms of Enlistment

Marko Kloos' Measures of Absolution

Marko Kloos' Lucky Thirteen

B.V. Larson's Swarm

B.V. Larson's Extinction

B.V. Larson's Rebellion

Started:

B.V. Larson's Conquest
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Re: What Literature Be Ya Absorbed In? © 2014
Also, no longer 2012. Allow me to change that from the title please.
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How to draw it uses that funky 3DS augmented reality technology... But that's only a bonus. It's a freakin awesome book.
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So I've read Accelerando.

My two cents:

It's an eccentric book with the unprecedented ambition of turning something like The Last Question (Isaac Asimov, 1956) into a whole full-lenght novel. To go ahead with this idea, it almost seems like mr Ross just wrote every single scifi meme or idea that he could think of and meshed it together into an almost coherent multi-generational story about the singularity, what it means for mankind and the universe. An amazing list of themes are in here, from the Fermi paradox to the concept of noosphere, capitalism, communism, cats and myasaki, wild virtual sex fantasies and adblocks for your brain wetware. Slowboating less-than-cee travel or wormhole communications system. Ressurection, cloning, virtual ghosts of oneself, teleportation. Anything you remember it's there.

The result of this extraordinary density of ideas (that is reminiscent to me of Hitchhiker’s Guide) is that the core story of the characters suffers a lot, many references to many different issues but few of them are actually developed. Characters do not grow, they remain static while the world turns around them. They become symbols and voices for the (simple, simplistic?) forces that actuate on the solar system (the communist innovator, the IRS dominatrix worried by the debt, the historian, the empress, the traumatized male concubine, etc.,etc.), always pontificating and confusing the “troubles of our current societie’s status quo” with actual real troubles. Love stories are forced and predictable. Oh and there’s a cat and a deus ex machina that is so glaring even the writer is forced to admit it in writing.

The jokes are almost all meta and hyperlinky. It is written in a post-internet language where so many one-liners are throwaways to other works of fiction or themes, fearless with the usage of more obscure terminologies for the intended audiences probably know how to google it in seconds. Speaking of which, the density of these threw me away constantly from the “suspension of disbelief”. making me go “oh another one in a single page? Come on”.

The core ideas of it are staggering and thought-provoking. To reach their profoundity however the writer sacrifices local complexities, rendering social and political developments with a polarized simplistic take. IOW, Ross sacrifices the realism of small leaves and trunks in order to focus on the design of forests. It’s a problem. It makes me question Ross’ idea that it is quite possible to write through a singularity. Vinge’s books are way more coherent, controlled and focused, with clear emotional and character arcs, although they do lack this gargantuan large-scale focus.

It’s a magnus opus in scope and I advise everyone to read it. Their stories, despite all the written things above, are entertaining and insightful in what ways it is possible to foresee our future socializations, woes and worries, as well as riches. The final conclusions are between dire lovecraftian and cornucopian, giving the word “Singularity” a new meaning to me that I found both ironic and interesting.

 

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Wrapped Up:

The rest of B.V. Larson's Star Force Series

Marko Kloos' Lines Of Departure

Patrick Rothfuss' The Name Of The Wind

Rumbling Through:

Patrick Rothfuss' The Wise Man's Fear




Rothfuss' King Killer Chronicles are awesome as all get out.   I usually go through books like a wale eating krill but they're over seven hundred and a thousand pages respectively and been playing merry hell with my sleep cycle.
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Offline Mongoose

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Someone remind me to actually write up what I thought of Dune, since I finished it more than a year ago. :p

Still working on Unfinished Tales, which i think will be the end of my Tolkien recap for now.  I've had John Dies at the End sitting around as a gift from a friend for a while.

 

Offline Luis Dias

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Write what you thought of Dune. For me it was an amazing experience.

And don't forget to read Children of Dune (the third book), yeah you kinda have to read Messiah (the second) to get most of it, and then, God Emperor of Dune (the fourth book).

I have yet to read the next ones which are still Herbert's.

 

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I dunno, while I rate Dune as one of my all-time favourite books, the sequels rapidly lost their appeal. There is only so much *talking* I can endure in a novel :P
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Offline Luis Dias

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God Emperor of Dune sits as one of the most memorable things I've ever read. It makes the same point that Dune does, but tenfold in-your-face style.

It's like writing an organic, genetic singularity novel, if that makes any sense (since the Butlerian Jihad and its aftermath made it impossible to reach a singularity in silicon terms).

But yeah I agree there's little that could be taken as "plot" ahah.

 

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I found myself, this summer, needing a new series to get into and so I found myself looking back on my rule - which I broke with A Song of Ice and Fire by George RR Martin - that I will never start a multi-novel epic series which the author has not finished (or is at least close to finishing).

I started the Wheel of Time.  Hell, if I'm going to read an epic series, why not read THE series, right? =)

I am now on Book 7.  While these books are very well written, I find myself getting periodically bored because Jordan alternates between periods of intense interest, and descriptions that are so boring Tolkien would have been impressed.  One of the cover quotes is "Jordan has continued the project that Tolkien began," and I'm not sure if the reviewer who wrote that meant it quite as literally as I see it =)

Occasionally I get the sense that Martin is trying to out-do Jordan for sheer number of characters, but he has a long, long way to go.  On the other hand, Martin's work is memorable because - where Jordan's characters seem to be much like the energizer bunny, even when you think they're finally done they keep going and going - Martin likes to keep things fresh by killing off major characters with some regularity.

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that I will never start a multi-novel epic series which the author has not finished (or is at least close to finishing).
May I ask why you have this rule?

 

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that I will never start a multi-novel epic series which the author has not finished (or is at least close to finishing).
May I ask why you have this rule?

http://www.indyweek.com/artery/archives/2013/02/18/brandon-sanderson-finishes-robert-jordans-bestselling-wheel-of-time-series-with-a-memory-of-light

Authors don't always live long enough to finish their series.  This is a potential concern even with the 'Song of Ice and Fire' books.  Fortunately, Jordan left enough notes and material with WoT, knowing he was in poor health, that Sanderson could finish it.

Also, I hate waiting for the next book.
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Its very satisfying being able to cruise smoothly through an entire series stem to stern.
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Hmm, I don't think I could wait that long. I have two series' on the go, one I'm confident the number of books is in the 20s now, and the other is in double figures, 12 or 13 I think. The former I've been reading the books for many years.