[S-99]

Romulan taken advantage of borg nanoprobes are pretty badass.

[Mefustae]

Romulan taken advantage of borg nanoprobes are pretty badass stupid.

Seriously. **** that movie.

[Colonol Dekker]

No! It are win!

[BlueFlames]

Romulan taken advantage of borg nanoprobes are pretty badass stupid.

Seriously. **** that movie.

You know, as apocalyptic scenerios go, having the Borg assimilate the Romulans en masse would be pretty scary.  (Or having Romulan experiments go awry, resulting in that assimilation.)  Cloaking Cubes, anybody?

But yes, **** that movie.  If you want to reboot the franchise, just reboot it.  Don't do some ****ing time-travel plot that effectively erases the continuity of the previous five TV series and ten films.  Also, don't use the line, "This isn't your daddy's Star Trek," during the marketing campaign, as it's downright abusive to the most loyal segment of your audience.  How many successful businesses regularly say, "**** our loyal customers!  We only want to serve people who have no personal investment in our services"?

Beyond that, I don't offer any criticism, as I've not seen the film.  They clearly stated that they didn't want previous generations of Trekkie to see it, and I was happy to oblige.

[Dragon]

It appears that they thought Star Trek is actually taken seriously by most people, and tried to update it because the old approach got old. They were wrong though. Actually, Star Trek and especially TOS is hard to take seriously these days, what with all the phlebotinium, moving at the speed of the plot, clichés and very retro-futuristic designs. Modern SF seems to be taking a turn back to realism. Science in ST is ridiculous, and it's a part of it's charm.
Trek these days runs mostly on nostalgia and the old-timey, idealistic feeling all the series had. In fact, ST: Enterprise seems to be the most "modern" of Trek series (though I haven't seen it, so I don't really know), because it has much less advanced technology and has (relatively) a lot more realism than other Trek series.

[The E]

Yes, how DARE they make a Star Trek movie that is actually fun to watch. The NERVE!

[General Battuta]

But yes, **** that movie.  If you want to reboot the franchise, just reboot it.  Don't do some ****ing time-travel plot that effectively erases the continuity of the previous five TV series and ten films.  Also, don't use the line, "This isn't your daddy's Star Trek," during the marketing campaign, as it's downright abusive to the most loyal segment of your audience.  How many successful businesses regularly say, "**** our loyal customers!  We only want to serve people who have no personal investment in our services"?

Beyond that, I don't offer any criticism, as I've not seen the film.  They clearly stated that they didn't want previous generations of Trekkie to see it, and I was happy to oblige.

It doesn't erase anything, the movie makes it completely clear that the new timeline has branched off from the old one, not replaced it.

You should see the movie! It's deeply flawed but its flaws are actually not particularly related to its failure to appreciate old Trek films, since it does callbacks to previous Trek movies and even TNG/DS9. It's just sloppily written and not particularly about anything other than LENS FLARE [explosion] [one-liner]

oh boy this thread is gonna derail hard now

[Nuke]

i say they should do an entire trek series, in the evil universe!     

[Colonol Dekker]

I love the start of the movie, and the end. Space parachutes are equally cool!!

[Mongoose]

I enjoyed the series for what it was, and I'd love to see Abrams take another crack at it.

[el_magnifico]

DISCLAIMER: Haven't seen the movie yet. Not really a hardcore Trek fan.

In fact, ST: Enterprise seems to be the most "modern" of Trek series (though I haven't seen it, so I don't really know), because it has much less advanced technology and has (relatively) a lot more realism than other Trek series.

And yet almost every Trekkie I know hated it. Because, you see, it's so smart to withdraw your support from a franchise that is already in a hardship. Plus, it was chic to do so. Wouldn't want to miss the hate wagon now, would you? /rant

i say they should do an entire trek series, in the evil universe!     

Now that would be AWESOME!!!

[Flipside]

I feel like this thread started halfway through....

[General Battuta]

Enterprise might seem worth support in principle, but in practice it was just Voyager with even less charisma and even more obvious creative exhaustion. Manny Coto really started turning it around, but by then it was too late.

[Mongoose]

I sometimes wonder what might have been if he had been running the show from the beginning, considering just how good some of those last-season episodes were.

[NGTM-1R]

Don't do some ****ing time-travel plot that effectively erases the continuity of the previous five TV series and ten films.

This post is dumb, and this line here is why.

Now maybe you're a complete cheapskate and you don't want to follow the various Relaunch novel series (I'd like to but :money:) or STO's timeline or whatever, but this is just stupid.

[Nuke]

Enterprise might seem worth support in principle, but in practice it was just Voyager with even less charisma and even more obvious creative exhaustion. Manny Coto really started turning it around, but by then it was too late.

i dont know, voyager had some rather boring charicters, the fact they had to shove MASSIVE BORG TITS in your face to keep you interested in the characters. of course now that i think back to enterprise my favorite character was the ****ing dog. tos, tng, and ds9 all had very memorable casts.

[deathfun]

I really liked the movie
I also really liked all the other movies regardless of how 2001 A Space Odyssey esque (in relation to how drawn out the scenes showcasing ships and such were) the first one was

Also, Borg Tits were pretty awesome. That suit man, that suit


EDIT:
https://twitter.com/#!/TNG_S8
This is hilarious

[el_magnifico]

Manny Coto really started turning it around.

You see, I had watched many episodes from almost all of the previous Star Trek series before (not all of them, and not in chronological order though), I had read some of the novels too, and I had really enjoyed it all.
But Enterprise was different, I fell in love with that series. I watched the whole run TWICE. I spent whole nights reading... no, devouring every novel I could get ahold of. I scrutinized every Enterprise-related entry on Memory Alpha just to know every little tidbit of the damned thing. When I read there would be no more episodes from my favorite crew after season 4... damn! That was a sad day for this young man.

OK, I guess I've derailed this thread enough already. I'd better leave you to your talk about the movie.

[S-99]

Someone not understand me and take me out of context much in another topic?

[headdie]

Someone not understand me and take me out of context much in another topic?

wanted too or not the monster is let out its cage, time to sit back and watch the fire works, pick up the odd useful bit, and stand clear of the train wreck when it derails into the twilight zone and a mod has no choice but to lock it