Author Topic: WW2: the hyperdrive dilemna  (Read 13094 times)

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Offline mandobardanjusik

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Re: WW2: the hyperdrive dilemna
ok thought I would say that I am beginning several models right now. also, as of now the current plan has 2 main transports one for Allies, one for the axis, more may be added later: Axis: condor(some versions may be armed) Allies: DC-3/C-47 (unarmed).
also the PBY-catalina will be added, it will have an interested role, as it acts as a patrol plane, rescue plane, and cargo raider. so expect having to fly a couple of rescue missions with it.
and a final note in relatian to the HO-19 Amerika bomber. I plan to make it a massive Assault frigate, bigger than the mega-dirigibles, carrying a dozen plus fighters, and heavily armed towards base assualt. If you see one of these coming expect a huge battle, unless you want to lose you base.

 

Offline PeterX

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Re: WW2: the hyperdrive dilemna
The Ho-19(modification  of the Ho-18) was a never flown plane in combat,was tested as the Go-229(Ho-IX).....but fast near 1000 km/h in sea height(15m).
What bombs and missiles are planned to use?
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Re: WW2: the hyperdrive dilemna
first off, the HO-19 is a huge 6 engined bomber, the GO-229(HO-9) was a 2 engined fighter. the HO-19 I am using because it gives me a good giant assualt ship that would make a cool type of 'boss' challenge
as for weapondry, there will be non-guided missiles, types are YTB. similar with bombs. only thing for sure is the V-2, but that can technicly be classified as a ship unto itself

 

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Re: WW2: the hyperdrive dilemna
Wasn't this a Harry Turtledove book

Only if the aliens base their invasion off of thousand year old intel.
I loved that series!
Read the whole thing from start to finish. Honestly I think we could have kicked their asses harder than Turtledove allowed did in the books.
00:41:58 <DarthGeek>: I might do it, I need to build a reputation of someone who doesn't suffer fools
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Offline jr2

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Re: WW2: the hyperdrive dilemna
Wasn't this a Harry Turtledove book

Only if the aliens base their invasion off of thousand year old intel.
I loved that series!
Read the whole thing from start to finish. Honestly I think we could have kicked their asses harder than Turtledove allowed did in the books.

Which series was that?  :nervous:

  
Re: WW2: the hyperdrive dilemna
World War, with the sequel series Colonization, ending with the single novel Homeward Bound (which I haven't been able to find at the bookstore :blah:).
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[07:57:32] <Caiaphas> inspired by HerraTohtori i built a supermaneuverable plane in ksp
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Re: WW2: the hyperdrive dilemna
To be perfectly honest, this scenario does not impress me much. The reason for this is that it's just an excuse for SPACE NAZIS OMG LOL, without going in-depth about the huge change you've inflicted on the people in the setting.

To be clear here, this is not a criticism of the basic idea (Criticizing it would be somewhat hypocritical, given that I had a pretty similar idea some time ago, just an expression of my personal worldbuilding sensibilities (As in, I really do not care for Nazis at all. In Free Skies, my role for Hitler is to be the proprietor of a gay bar in Hamburg or something like that).
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I really need lifе to touch me
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Offline mandobardanjusik

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Re: WW2: the hyperdrive dilemna
well, thats a good point, however, what I do want to say is that the point is mine is a parrellel timeline, however most of the storyline of the war is the same, however 2 things have been changed: the aerial battlefield is now space and there is advanced engine/life support tech; 2) the germans have accelerated thier planning timeline due to the advanced engines. so yes it is space nazis, however that is not the focus, the focus is taking the best, coolest, most iconic aircraft(P-51, p-38, Me-262, B-17), and beefing them up, and bringing some of the wackiest concepts(the flying flapjack, the moonbat, the FR fireball, the HO-229, the super lorian, the amerika bomber I-250 and several others) and bringing back to life in a way not done before. the motivations are the same, the tech and location have just been altered, and advanced, to give us a new more interesting perspective on it. well all that, and I have never been able to mod flight sims to save my life, and space aircraft carrier dirigibles would be extremely cool
also there is also space ALLIES, and SPACE IMPERIALISTS(JAPS) OH MY

 

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Re: WW2: the hyperdrive dilemna
See, I get that desire, which was why I came up with Free Skies. I just don't think that space, or Nazis, are necessary in that picture :P
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Offline swashmebuckle

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Re: WW2: the hyperdrive dilemna
Mando and E, if you guys would both be interested, I think the two of you could really make a go for it on Free Skies. 

The E, Mando has tremendous enthusiasm bordering on compulsion for 3D modelling.  If you would be willing to adapt the project's art style to accommodate his relative lack of texturing ability, he could probably build up entire fleets of planes and ships.  It seems to me like Free Skies stalled out for a lack of models more than anything, so there you go.

Mando, directing your efforts toward Free Skies would mean dropping the whole Nazis-in-space angle (which I should point out was recently done in a comedy movie anyway), but in exchange you would be getting a well fleshed-out world full of planes and airships with great references for you to model (I know how you love your references).  You would also dramatically improve your chances of actually getting something released, as The E is an experienced FSO modder and coder with a wide variety of talents who knows what it takes to launch a successful mod.

Anyway, sorry to play matchmaker in your thread, I just can't resist getting psyched up for air pirates in FSO :)

 

Offline mandobardanjusik

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Re: WW2: the hyperdrive dilemna
I personally love the idea swash, though what I would like to say though, is that I would like to include several of the more radical designs and concepts that were never put into full production or even prototyped. I am willing to make compromises, and I do hope to still have the oppurtunity to do some classics as well(say a modified P-38, or the ME-262). I know a couple that would proably fit into your mod style well thta I had hoped to do(HO-229, XB-67 Moonbat, FR fireball, Super Lorian, XP-79 flying ram, flying flapjack, and others). also, I am willing to work with whatever you give me, just remember, the more I get the more precise I get. also I kinda would like a synopis of the storyline you have going, but we can discuss this later. personaly I considered this mod as a chance to recreate some of the best, and wackiest planes of the war, and I think I could do it through your mod, while getting more of the advice and experience I need to hone my modding skills. well tell me what you think The_E?

 

Offline jr2

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Re: WW2: the hyperdrive dilemna
Well, aren't your ideas both similar enough to benefit from a good portion of the modding effort?  You could make a resource pack, and make two nice campaigns out of it, if you guys help each other out.

 

Offline The E

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Re: WW2: the hyperdrive dilemna
I like this idea.

Mando: Free Skies is supposed to be (at least in part) a spiritual ... neighbor? Successor seems wrong :P to Crimson Skies; the setting is designed to create an environment in which weird dieselpunk science can exist.
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Offline mandobardanjusik

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Re: WW2: the hyperdrive dilemna{canceled/merged with free skies)
ok, so this mod is now, technicly cancelled, I have decided to team up with The _E on freeskies, hopefully something interesting should arise

 

Offline PeterX

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Re: WW2: the hyperdrive dilemna
I have a He 162 model in dx format on my hard drive for RTR. I try to convert it to pof.



What do you all think?
Peter
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