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Offline Legate Damar

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Re: RELEASE: Legacy of Shiva Part 1 DEMO (UPDATED)
Well until I get those assets I'm only going to have one mission... (really I just need two ships for the next one, though)

 

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Re: RELEASE: Legacy of Shiva Part 1 DEMO (UPDATED)
Why don't you use two other ships. The user-made ships section of the wiki is crawling with ships.
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Re: RELEASE: Legacy of Shiva Part 1 DEMO (UPDATED)
I need these two specific ships. Really if Spoon says no I have some other stuff I could work on instead, but I just want to hear if he is willing to let me use just those two ships or not.

 

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Re: RELEASE: Legacy of Shiva Part 1 DEMO (UPDATED)
Quote from: Spoon
Sorry but no, all unreleased assets that I have are meant for WoD2 and at this time are not for usage in other projects.
What part of this was not clear in the first place?
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Re: RELEASE: Legacy of Shiva Part 1 DEMO (UPDATED)
You just think you need those two specific ships. They can be substituted.

(seriously which ones are they...I can't think of anything that specific off the top of my head that's in WoD2...and I won't hear arguments for style as they won't even fit with regular FS ships all that well...)
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Re: RELEASE: Legacy of Shiva Part 1 DEMO (UPDATED)
Quote from: Spoon
Sorry but no, all unreleased assets that I have are meant for WoD2 and at this time are not for usage in other projects.
What part of this was not clear in the first place?

Well I asked you for a whole lot of stuff (to be honest that was just kind of a ploy, I figured I ask you for something huge, you say no, then I make a smaller request and you're more likely to grant it - old Cardassian mind trick). Then I ask you for just the Celestial and Ascention and you never reply. If you don't want to give them to me, fine, just say so.

 

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Re: RELEASE: Legacy of Shiva Part 1 DEMO (UPDATED)
I won't hear arguments for style as they won't even fit with regular FS ships all that well...)

Probably worth noting that this mod appears to be set in the WoD universe... I think - it's not quite clear.

I think this is misunderstanding:
@Legate Damar: When Spoon said he's not allowing access to all unreleased assets, he meant all of them (including the two you're after). You'll have to wait until WoD2 is released - there's no law that says you have to FRED mission 2 before mission 3, 4, or 5+ though, so you can keep yourself busy until then.

Also, seriously, you will find people much more understanding and helpful if you stop all the Cardassian stuff. It is starting to annoy people.
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Re: RELEASE: Legacy of Shiva Part 1 DEMO (UPDATED)
Well he said it was an outrageous request to give all of his unreleased assets. I'd figure that just two ships wouldn't be so outrageous. But whatever. I have some things I can work on even without those ships.

 

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Re: RELEASE: Legacy of Shiva Part 1 DEMO (UPDATED)
*old Cardassian mind trick
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Re: RELEASE: Legacy of Shiva Part 1 DEMO (UPDATED)
Honestly, I can't think of any unreleased assets that can't be substituted for released stuff. What do you need, exactly? And not the specific ship - what role do you need filled in your campaign that can only be filled by one or two specific unreleased assets? I'm sure that people will be able to suggest alternatives.
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Offline Legate Damar

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Re: RELEASE: Legacy of Shiva Part 1 DEMO (UPDATED)
Honestly, I can't think of any unreleased assets that can't be substituted for released stuff. What do you need, exactly? And not the specific ship - what role do you need filled in your campaign that can only be filled by one or two specific unreleased assets? I'm sure that people will be able to suggest alternatives.

I can just wait for them... I have other aspects I can work on (modeling etc.)

 

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Re: RELEASE: Legacy of Shiva Part 1 DEMO (UPDATED)
Being stubborn about things like this doesn't really pay off.
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Re: RELEASE: Legacy of Shiva Part 1 DEMO (UPDATED)
Seriously, unless those WoD2 ships are completely irreplaceable and cannot have their role filled by any other ship out there, you don't need them.
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Re: RELEASE: Legacy of Shiva Part 1 DEMO (UPDATED)
Seriously, unless those WoD2 ships are completely irreplaceable and cannot have their role filled by any other ship out there, you don't need them.

They are

 

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Re: RELEASE: Legacy of Shiva Part 1 DEMO (UPDATED)
You don't even have the models. You could not possibly know that.
You don't know their turret counts, length, etc. No functional information. Thus completely replaceable.
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Offline Legate Damar

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Re: RELEASE: Legacy of Shiva Part 1 DEMO (UPDATED)
I have seen them in videos

 

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Re: RELEASE: Legacy of Shiva Part 1 DEMO (UPDATED)
Be creative. Vasudans have a slightly similar style to CSA (curvy, sleek ships). You can find some that are both tilemapped and hi-poly. Aestival is released, with a nice green texture (or you could ask Spoon for a bunch of tileable, CSA style maps). Then, just reskin the Zods to look like CSA. TBH, when you take a closer look at those ships, their turret models are nothing unusual. They do have a certain distinctive style to them, but if you use them, people will just go "hey, WoD ships" instead of associating them with your mod. You have to use some models that aren't so strongly associated with one campaign (Stratcomm's Vasudans are a good idea), and give a distinctive, personalized touch to them. If you're good with PCS2, you can also move turrets around and replace them if you need to (adding shields is also easy, if that's what you want from WoD ships).

 

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Re: RELEASE: Legacy of Shiva Part 1 DEMO (UPDATED)
I don't think Spoon is going to give me his textures

 

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Re: RELEASE: Legacy of Shiva Part 1 DEMO (UPDATED)
'bout time you realize that. lets face it, no one is psychic.

besides, i don't think Spoon's been happy about his assets being used since his campaign got overhauled by some random Darth and turned into South Park (i wasn't there to see it).
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Re: RELEASE: Legacy of Shiva Part 1 DEMO (UPDATED)
I don't think Spoon is going to give me his textures
Note, texture bases (what you should be asking for) shouldn't be that much of a problem (assuming he kept them, which isn't always the case). For Aestival at least, the "base" you can see when looking at a texture is a tileable pattern. The only problem are Aestival-specific bits painted upon it. If everything fails, you can also try to remove them yourself, but be wary that it tends to be a very tedious job.
Also note, this will still be pretty recognizable, so unless your campaign is WoD-realted, then you should consider making your own textures, or creatively repainting existing ones.