[Nico]

I don't like the lamps on the desk, they don't look good enough vompared to the rest of the scene ( there's too many reflections everywhere, too )

[wEvil]

Originally posted by Mad Bomber


Yeah. I imagine Oberlin's room as being much, much smaller. Like, college dorm room sized.

I'll draw something and scan it to show what I think it should look like.

Uhh....that is the size of a double college dorm room.  You'd find that two people would be unable to psychologically handle living in a smaller space for extended periods of time.  The rough size of that room is about 15 meters by 15 meters with a 4 meter long coridoor leading to the local "block" where there are showers, lavatories, rec rooms and the galley.

COnsidering the entire space is not larger than 700 cubic meters, the ship should have plenty of space.  This is one of the reasons i'm so for cutting crew sizes down, sticking 25,000 people on a tin can 4 klicks long is a very unrealistic figure.

[Nico]

Originally posted by wEvil


Uhh....that is the size of a double college dorm room.  You'd find that two people would be unable to psychologically handle living in a smaller space for extended periods of time.  The rough size of that room is about 15 meters by 15 meters with a 4 meter long coridoor leading to the local "block" where there are showers, lavatories, rec rooms and the galley.

Where do you live? Beverly Hills? My room is 4*4 dude...

[Zeronet]

Originally posted by wEvil


Uhh....that is the size of a double college dorm room.  You'd find that two people would be unable to psychologically handle living in a smaller space for extended periods of time.  The rough size of that room is about 15 meters by 15 meters with a 4 meter long coridoor leading to the local "block" where there are showers, lavatories, rec rooms and the galley.

COnsidering the entire space is not larger than 700 cubic meters, the ship should have plenty of space.  This is one of the reasons i'm so for cutting crew sizes down, sticking 25,000 people on a tin can 4 klicks long is a very unrealistic figure.

The Fighter pilots would have rooms, but they wouldnt be that big, they'd be as small as possible, a bunkbed and thats it, everything else would be communal(and for lower ranked members of the crew, they'd have to hotbed, think of the Rooms in System Shock 2 with all the beds)

[TheCelestialOne]

15*15 m!? Is it a holiday cruise ship luxury suite?

EDIT : And you say showers are in the local "block"? I'd rather have a 2*2 room with a personal shower... Cause a 15*15 room without a shower? Come on... It could have multiple jacuzzis...

[Mad Bomber]

Originally posted by Zeronet
The Fighter pilots would have rooms, but they wouldnt be that big, they'd be as small as possible, a bunkbed and thats it, everything else would be communal(and for lower ranked members of the crew, they'd have to hotbed, think of the Rooms in System Shock 2 with all the beds)

Nah I wasn't envisioning it being that small.

I was thinking something more along the lines of this.

or if Geocities is being its usual crappy self, here's the URL so you can copy and paste it:
http://www.geocities.com/kalnnas/OCquarters.jpg

Of course that in the back isn't an actual window. Oberlin's room is too far inside the ship. Nah, it's a screen showing the view from an external camera. (Exactly which camera, is up to the people living in the room, and they can set it via the computer.)

There would probably be something else taking up most of that open space. But you get the general idea.

The space in between the rooms is needed for hull strength and for energy dispersal. (heat-conductive webbing, etc)

Hotbedding is not necessary when the ship is 2.5 kilometers long. Maybe on frigates or corvettes or something small like that. But not on a dreadnought.

[wEvil]

i'm going by what i've seen of university accomodations.

There would probably be about ten rooms like these sharing two or four shower cubicles and a couple of lavs and there would only be one or two rec rooms on the entire ship.

Seems fair to me.  But then again some of our players aren't fair, are they?

[Zeronet]

Hotbedding saves room, saves money, means more space for guns and equipment.

[Mad Bomber]

yes, but not everyone would want to go through with that. There is a political thing to be considered, the OC does not conscript people except in times of all-out war.

Besides there is plenty of space, so there's no need to hotbed.

Studies showed that hotbedding and living in extremely cramped environments can slowly cause serious stress-related mental health problems. They are staved off somewhat if the ship in question has a highly disciplined and loyal crew (like the Tessers with their loyalty to the Emperor).

But the stress is lessened dramatically, if there is not very much cramping at all. That's the reason the window-screen was added in to all rooms, to give people the feeling they weren't crammed into the ship like sardines.

[wEvil]

btw has anyone actually looked at those two lance fighter animations?

I'm not so worried about the havok one because everyones' seen it to death but i'm interested in what people think about a couple of changes i've made to my technique.

[Zeronet]

I looked at the first one, which was downloading at 18kb/s on my 56k Modemn, its good but i cant really see much of the front fighter due to the shadow.

[JC Denton]

It looks absolutely nothing like what I imagined.  And you've got to remember, it was half-designed by the FVC, so it will have some distinguishing features that set it apart from everything else out there.  Right now it looks like a shrunken-down PGA cruiser or something.  That's not to say that it's bad, it's just that it's not a design that I have a taste for.

I thought that it looked something like this.  And I even put it in the top-side-front orientation you insist upon



I'll try to make a better image than that sometime later on.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Mad Bomber
yes, but not everyone would want to go through with that. There is a political thing to be considered, the OC does not conscript people except in times of all-out war.

Besides there is plenty of space, so there's no need to hotbed.

Studies showed that hotbedding and living in extremely cramped environments can slowly cause serious stress-related mental health problems. They are staved off somewhat if the ship in question has a highly disciplined and loyal crew (like the Tessers with their loyalty to the Emperor).

But the stress is lessened dramatically, if there is not very much cramping at all. That's the reason the window-screen was added in to all rooms, to give people the feeling they weren't crammed into the ship like sardines.

even if they're conscripts, they're militaries. you can't win a war with such considerations.

[Alikchi]

The Obirians do tend to get blown up

[wEvil]

Stills of the Lance interceptor

[wEvil]

Stills of the Tharsis Escort Carrier





Stills of the Nereid class Frigate

[wEvil]

The next big thing, even though its embarrassingly crap at the moment.  If i manage to crack realistic human faces this will wind up as Jairnet Fraser.....i hope!






Nereid Class Frigate

http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/wevil/rotate.avi

Tharsis Class Escort Carrier

http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/wevil/Tharsis2.avi

[Nico]

the interceptor looks like... something that is not an interceptor, but it's space, so why not, after all. mmh, for the face... cool, one thing I do better than Wevil ^_^

[Zeronet]

wEvil did you get my Cruiser stuff and Fighter?

[wEvil]

Well...that face is incomplete and only my second attempt (ever)

Got any tips (apart from scrap it and start again! )


ZN - i might have them in a couple of emails on my system but send them again just to be sure, although I won't be able to get at them for 6 weeks (no net access from my current house and dont want to set up an email account on the work machines)