[James Razor]

Hrmpf, ok, i will just let that stand as it is and use the Star Trek approach: Dont try to think about it, just enjoy the show.

[crizza]

Woot?
You can think about it, but in the end the BP guys have the last word, not to mention that by the time of BP the Shivans would've replenished the lost Saths.
My best bet would be to defang the Sath and then pound it to death...
That's a point which keeps me thinking...the GTVA is in dire need for a cheap system, able to deliver a mean punch and get away quickly...the Raynor could be the system... or would it be possible to use a remote controlled triton with a meson bomb as fire ship?

[Aesaar]

That's a point which keeps me thinking...the GTVA is in dire need for a cheap system, able to deliver a mean punch and get away quickly...the Raynor could be the system... or would it be possible to use a remote controlled triton with a meson bomb as fire ship?

This actually sounds like a decent idea.

[headdie]

That's a point which keeps me thinking...the GTVA is in dire need for a cheap system, able to deliver a mean punch and get away quickly...the Raynor could be the system... or would it be possible to use a remote controlled triton with a meson bomb as fire ship?

This actually sounds like a decent idea.

that's the role of bombers with fighter escorts.  in system they have greater subspace agility than any warships and are able to quickly deliver a significant blow, often dealing damage faster than anything short 1500m capship.

[Colonol Dekker]

Jads TACO delivery system.......

[crizza]

That's a point which keeps me thinking...the GTVA is in dire need for a cheap system, able to deliver a mean punch and get away quickly...the Raynor could be the system... or would it be possible to use a remote controlled triton with a meson bomb as fire ship?

This actually sounds like a decent idea.

that's the role of bombers with fighter escorts.  in system they have greater subspace agility than any warships and are able to quickly deliver a significant blow, often dealing damage faster than anything short 1500m capship.

Depending on the yield factor of a meson bomb...killing a Sath with bombers and even capships takes too much time.
Who knows, maybe a meson bomb jumped dead between the fangs of a Sath...could cripple it.

[QuakeIV]

Massive meson bomb SSM doesn't afraid of anything!! 

[headdie]

Massive meson bomb SSM doesn't afraid of anything!! 

thing is an SSM strike has to be launched from somewhere

[Ryuseiken]

Massive meson bomb SSM doesn't afraid of anything!! 

thing is an SSM strike has to be launched from somewhere

True, and the Triton carrying the bomb would have to be somewhere in the area, which if a Sath is in the system is likely an active war zone with constant Shivan activity. Considering how much I assume a meson bomb would cost (a lot), and the fragility of the Titan carrying it, I don't think this would be a viable tactics to use more than once.

[crizza]

The area is a rather big solar system, where a logistic ship is most likely hiding to.
So a single Triton wouldn't be the problem, granted, Shivans seem to find convoys pretty fast.

[-Norbert-]

Massive meson bomb SSM doesn't afraid of anything!! 

thing is an SSM strike has to be launched from somewhere

True, and the Triton carrying the bomb would have to be somewhere in the area, which if a Sath is in the system is likely an active war zone with constant Shivan activity. Considering how much I assume a meson bomb would cost (a lot), and the fragility of the Titan carrying it, I don't think this would be a viable tactics to use more than once.

The problem when they blew up the Knossos wasn't how much a meson bombs cost. The problem was that it was brand new, untested technology they just finished a few days ago tops.
But consider how many meson bombs where stuffed into the Bastion and it's sister ship and how much (or rather little) time it took to produce all of those bombs I really don't think the GTVA would mind losing a few meson bombs in failed attacks by now.

[QuakeIV]

Also considering they dumped one through a gate in The Blade Itself.  It was two frigates but they did it anways.

Though admittedly one was basically a super frigate effectively piloted by alpha one.

[MatthTheGeek]

The target was more the Arcadia than the frigates.

[Molaris]

i didn't see if the "Raynor" discussion was over, but I did notice something about it. When you look at the next generation of Terran capships, most of em have HEAVY forward firepower (Titan, Bellerophon, Chimera, Hyperion, and even the Raynor slightly). The only flaw is with these ships is they have squat for side armaments (anti-capships wise). The only 2 ships really built for it are the Raynor and the Diomedes (Titan does have 1 BBlue and Blueslash, but it's still built for forward fire). The Raynor has 2 BBlue and 2 Blueslash on each side and Diomedes has 2 blueslash on each side. The Raynor seems to be built more to deal damage IF the battlelines cross.

I dunno. this mighta already been said. sorry if it was. just wanted to make sure this was said because from a battle standpoint, they raynor is gonna save it's corvettes and even possibly the Titan should it get ugly or the enemy make their own shock jump from the side.

[MatthTheGeek]

The Raynor has 2 BBlue and 2 Blueslash on each side

Nope. Go re-read the loadouts.

[headdie]

Wiki page for the Raynor

Blue Planet   
Turret Type - Amount
HBlue - 1
BBlue - 1
MBlue - 4
TerSlashBlue - 2
SBlue - 2
Eos - 6 (x2)
TerPulse - 7
AAAf - 7
Terran Turret 2 - 11

[MatthTheGeek]

To sum up, the Raynor has a HBlue and a BBlue in front, and 2 MBlues, 1 TerSlashBlue and 1Sblue on each broadside.

[-Norbert-]

I also don't remember the Titan having any BBlues other than the frontal ones...

[MatthTheGeek]

Titan has 3 frontal BBlues and one TerSlashBlue on each side.

[CT27]

To sum up, the Raynor has a HBlue and a BBlue in front, and 2 MBlues, 1 TerSlashBlue and 1Sblue on each broadside.

I've heard some say the SBlue is a bad beam and it would be better if it were replaced with an extra blue slashing beam.  Your thoughts?