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Offline karajorma

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Re: "Atlas Shrugged Pt 2" Movie producers ask for pro bono help
Well that's a loaded question if ever I saw one.

You first.
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Re: "Atlas Shrugged Pt 2" Movie producers ask for pro bono help
Where did I say she wasn't? I said I don't pay much attention to her for same reason as why I don't pay attention to the crackpots who post videos on YouTube. Life is too short.

In that case, can you tell me what you think a 'normal' person says, believes, and does?

Where the hell is this line of questioning going and why don't your responses seem related to what Karaj is saying?
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Re: "Atlas Shrugged Pt 2" Movie producers ask for pro bono help
Well that's a loaded question if ever I saw one.

You first.

Here is the midnorthern US at least, a 'normal' person is someone who works 8-14 hour shifts, has a spouse and 2 or 3 kids, is a supporter of either the Republican or Democratic party (it's normal to support either/or), doesn't particularly care about politics, and engages in activities such as watching American Football, watching TV all day, fishing (at least in this region of the country), and going out to eat at a restaurant.  This, of course, might be different in another part of the US, or another part of the world.

However, it has been my experience that stereotype of what a 'normal' person is does not usually fit well with what people are really like.  At the same time, there is this little paradox that whoever goes too much against what is considered 'normal' generally gets met with a surprising amount of hostility, regardless of how harmless their actions actually are.

Where the hell is this line of questioning going and why don't your responses seem related to what Karaj is saying?

I think I might of misunderstood Karaj's reasons for not caring about Ayn Rand, as her Objectionism philosophy would indeed be considered quite radical within my part of the country, and thus met with hostility from normal citizens and authority figures alike.  Most of the people I know would just dismiss anything that goes against their established beliefs as automatically being false.

 

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Re: "Atlas Shrugged Pt 2" Movie producers ask for pro bono help
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Objectionism

I don't know what that would be, but it sounds hilarious :P

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I don't know what that would be, but it sounds hilarious :P

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Re: "Atlas Shrugged Pt 2" Movie producers ask for pro bono help
Ayn Rand used to make fun of "volunteers", for their utter stuppidity. She battled furiously against altruism, considered it to be one of the greatest evils in our society.

Admittedly, I'm not completely familiar with Ayn Rand for the reason I'm not familiar with the works of the other crackpots whose videos get posted on here but wasn't her objection to volunteers based on the idea of people acting for other people's needs and desires rather than their own?

Anyone volunteering for this would be doing it because they really want to see a sequel based on the book not because they want other people to see it. So if I've understood her issues with volunteering correctly, this shouldn't be against them, right?

Or is there something I've missed?

You're missing the part where volunteers are asked to work for free. I understand your objection, but that's irrelevant to the objectivists. They decided they would never "understand" things like volunteering for the sake of it (helping because you like to help, for instance, is irrational and evil).

You decided that life is too short to get all the crazies. I'd advise you to spend some time in objectivism, if for nothing else to understand America better. Atlas Shrugged was deemed the second most influential book in america in the 20th century just after the friggin babble.

 

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Re: "Atlas Shrugged Pt 2" Movie producers ask for pro bono help
I think you missed my point. As far as I understood, her issue with volunteers was that they were working because they felt they owed the rest of humanity something, or cause they felt guilty for having more than other people. Volunteering to help make a movie isn't something you do cause you want other people to be able to see the movie for the good of humanity. You do it because you want to see yourself in the movie.
fixed that for you :p

but on a more serious note, is it really that hard for them to get statists or however its called?


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