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Offline Nico

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I find the thought of being the only intelligent life in the universe disturbing....
There has to be something out there somewhere... hell, they may already know about us....


ok, I'll tell you the truth: they're already among us, if you don't know about them, it's because of a worldwide spred conspiracy. In fact, i'm one of them. I intend to slowly conquer HLP, and once this is done, I know Earth will fall soo to our might. Time's running short, humans, soon you'll know  what "dominent species" really mean!!!
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ok, I'll tell you the truth: they're already among us, if you don't know about them, it's because of a worldwide spred conspiracy. In fact, i'm one of them. I intend to slowly conquer HLP, and once this is done, I know Earth will fall soo to our might. Time's running short, humans, soon you'll know  what "dominent species" really mean!!!


Thats pure, unadulterated spam, cover your eyes kids!
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yeah!
well, it happens, sometimes, even to me, you see :p
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There are over 40 jupiter sized planets record, but only one has been actually seen when eclipsed its parent star.  There is bound to be some kind of life out there.  Intelligent life might be out there as well.  I think it probably is abundant, but even if there was several other species out there that have they might be to the point of the Bonze Age or they might have an empire as mighty as the Roman Empire.  However, without radiowaves or starships they can't contact us, nor can we conact them.  I kinda like to think of us sorta like the "First Ones." :)

Oh and Titan or Triton, one or the other is capable of supporting human life except it keeps a temperature of -200 F.  :nod:
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I remember hearing this somewhere: We know there are millions of galaxies. And in each of those millions of galaxies, there are trillions of stars. And oribiting those trillions of stars, there is almost definitely Terra-like planets. And of those planets, many probably support life, and some may even have intelligent life. At least that's what the Law of Probability says...

EDIT: We know of over 80 planets. Just found an article about a system 55 LY away that could possibly have an earth-like planet: http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=8645
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I remember hearing this somewhere: We know there are millions of galaxies. And in each of those millions of galaxies, there are trillions of stars. And oribiting those trillions of stars, there is almost definitely Terra-like planets. And of those planets, many probably support life, and some may even have intelligent life. At least that's what the Law of Probability says...

EDIT: We know of over 80 planets. Just found an article about a system 55 LY away that could possibly have an earth-like planet: http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=8645



I haven't been keeping up with it as much as I used to.  Very interesting.
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Interesting question, simple answer.

Now, identifying an alien life form might become the true problem...
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But is there any reason why any other lifeform would be so radically different from us?

For all of the diversity on this planet....there's alot thats the same.  As a species we like to pick on differences but I can stand anywhere in the world....anywhere...except maybe the extreme polar regions (for most of the example) and find that things are pretty much the same.  Bugs, plants, animals, the sky, the clouds...everything is the same....its all different...things are a bit different....but not in any fundamental way.  I've also found that everything seems to mirror everything else.  Atoms, solar systems, galaxy's...can everything be really that different?
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well that's becase everything evolved from the same thing
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But is there any reason why any other lifeform would be so radically different from us?

For all of the diversity on this planet....there's alot thats the same.  As a species we like to pick on differences but I can stand anywhere in the world....anywhere...except maybe the extreme polar regions (for most of the example) and find that things are pretty much the same.  Bugs, plants, animals, the sky, the clouds...everything is the same....its all different...things are a bit different....but not in any fundamental way.  I've also found that everything seems to mirror everything else.  Atoms, solar systems, galaxy's...can everything be really that different?


Yes... It can. If a species has evolved under water for example. It might not even be able to survive outside of the water. (Untill they are smart enough to research techs :rolleyes: Research fishies!)

And we always compare the life on earth with the life we think is out there. But it might be far from the truth. For when 1 condition is different so will be the other conditions...:D
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For all of the diversity on this planet....there's alot thats the same.  As a species we like to pick on differences but I can stand anywhere in the world....anywhere...except maybe the extreme polar regions (for most of the example) and find that things are pretty much the same.  Bugs, plants, animals, the sky, the clouds...everything is the same....its all different...things are a bit different....but not in any fundamental way.  I've also found that everything seems to mirror everything else.  Atoms, solar systems, galaxy's...can everything be really that different?


Yes, but all those similar things spread across the earth by flight, plate movements etc. What about the possibilities for silicon-based life or something weird like that?

 

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I did some research on that for NW - silicon life wouldn'y get beyond the bacterial as Silicon can't form the bezine ring structure, amongst other things.

 

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Well, we need to know more about what the exact processes that constitute life to make a good guess on that part. Heck, maybe there can be a gaseous hydrogen-based life. :D Also, there can certainly be hydrocarbon-based life that still does not resemble contemporary life on Earth in any way; even a Shivan looks somewhat organic. :D

 

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[sarcasm]we should look for intelligent life on earth first before we look elsewhere.[/sarcasm]


I've said it before, and I'll say it again: there is absolute proof that intelligent life exists "out there". What is that proof? The fact that they have not made contact with us is proof enough of their intelligence. :D

Seriously, I'm not sure what to think. I think my "default" setting would be to believe that there is not any life out there, but that's by nomeans a solid opinion on my part. :D
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Well, many of the organisms on Earth still suprise us by their form, so no guarantees on what they look like or how they function.
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Also, there can certainly be hydrocarbon-based life that still does not resemble contemporary life on Earth in any way; even a Shivan looks somewhat organic. :D


Anything made by a human, like a Shivan is probably tainted by our concept of life and what intellgent life looks like. I mean, the Shivans have visible arms, legs, head, eyes, er...plasma cannon...

:p

Anyway, my point is they're not that weird. Gas life or living rocks or something is probably out there, along with more stuff like us.

 

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gaz life... imagine your gaz creature, he decides to make first contact with terrans. His gigantic ship lans near a big city, the gates open slowly... Every human on the planet hold his breath... The door is open, and a fantastic rainbow coloured creature appears. The shape is undetermined, and seems to have no thick substance... it slowly goes down the ramp to meet the... hmm, it died :p wind has just sent him visit all the places of our planet, at the same time :lol:
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:lol:

But I imagine a gas creature would live in space. Or have some kind of method to stop itself from falling apart. :D

 

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I read an article on verossimilic alien lifeforms on a scientific magazine a few years ago, they were speculating on what organic, carbon-based lifeforms would look like when evolved on planets with different conditions than Earth - high gee, low gee, different atmosphere, less light, etc. Some pretty cool concepts there, I'll see if I can find an online version of it.
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