the GTVA keeps saying that they are unable to accept war as the only solution for the Shivans (which it obviously is);
1) Plz2quote for the GTVA ever saying the UEF is unable to accept war as
a solution to the Shivans. The fact they built a huge fleet of frigates, as well as three destroyers and a reserve of fleet bombers that has always felt utterly unnecessary for them, proves otherwise.
2) Where has it ever been said in the BP lore that war was
obviously the only solution to the Shivans ? *cough*sekretProject*cough*, *cough*contingencyMorpheus*cough*
While Ubuntu would probably spread beyond Sol, it wouldn't be able to take over the entire GTVA.
Could you PLEASE read the FAQ instead of arguing about stuff you don't know about ?
The GTVA's way isn't working, and everyone knows that.
Proof that it isn't working ? Last time I checked, the GTVA's way successfully repelled two Shivan invasions and ensured the survival of humanity until now. If that is 'not working', I don't know what is.
When you think about it, this is pretty stupid, since were the Shivans to deploy their entire fleet (40+ Sathanas juggernauts) there's nothing the GTVA could possibly do, short of collapsing jump nodes.
That's exactly the main GTVA contingency. Collapsing nodes. Scorched earth policy. And if that fails, mass exodus.
You would be silly to think the GTVA expects to win a war against the Shivans with brute force alone. They have multiple contingencies to enact in order to nullify the threat before it gets out of control, and they need a powerful enough fleet to enact these contingencies, not to take down the Shivan head-on.
It's a gamble, but it's the only solution the GTVA knows of. Do you have a better solution to propose, that wouldn't involve vague feelings from a random Nagari'd pilot ? When we're talking about the survival of humanity, the GTVA wants hard facts, which is pretty understandable.
They trade liberty for security, but they're right to.
I'd rather say they have their reasons to, that make sense from their point of view with the data they have available. 'Right' is a little too absolute for my tastes, let's keep this thread objective please
I don't think the GTVA has the moral justification to kill that many people who are just trying to defend themselves (It's war, I know, but I don't think the GTVA should ever have declared war on Sol).
Please now, when the GTVA has to choose between the moral high ground and the survival of humanity (in their point of view, with the data they have available), it is obvious which one they're going to choose.