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Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: Reunion of Freespaceholics
On the other hand, who are we making mods for if everyone is too busy making their own? :confused:

It's me, I actually play your mods.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Reunion of Freespaceholics
The absolute best work done in the FreeSpace engine has been achieved in the last couple years. I feel bad for anyone who's missed out.

 

Offline An4ximandros

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Re: Reunion of Freespaceholics
 Whelp, this thread makes it evident we should shutdown everything and HLP should turn into a gaming forum! :lol:

 On all seriousness I've been kinda bored of Freespace, too many people are conservative enough to hail Volition as: "The Gods of Gaming Development (TM)" and refuse to even consider the fact that Volition made a game for 1999 and that we should evolve from and not stagnate by remaining 90% what Volition made (which they wouldn't today.) This close minded idea almost completely invalidates the whole point of the SCP into which many people have poured their souls into.

 We need more original campaigns that shake the game-play, we should drop the whole dogfight in space attitude and make something interesting and cool only possible IN SPACE!
Or at least a new art style plz, I'm bored as heck from the old Volition style soulless, colorless texturing from a 1999 game. :(
 
I'd like to add I also believe all Zods should be worshiped as our true lords and masters. SA-VASUDA!

EDIT: If my wording offends someone I apologize, it was not the intention.

 

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I knew I wasnt the only one...

 

Offline AtomicClucker

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@An4ximandros

While I'd love the notion of doing more awesome stuff in space, the notion of playing a missile hitting a target in a realistic flight model isn't very fun. But I do agree that the dogfight needs to be revamped, Wings of Dawn is still one my favorites in that regard.
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Offline An4ximandros

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Re: Reunion of Freespaceholics
Not asking for realistic space (even realistic modern Air warfare would be boring to the average person) but something stylized to fit the "atmosphere."
 Wings of Dawn and Diaspora are examples of what we could do, but far from perfect, for the lack of a better word.

 For example: I have a concept for a sort of gunship that deploys a special "missile" that works as a one shot turret to be used in a semi-newtonian "dogfight" setting.
 I also had a bunch of ideas for "nuke ships", giant RC missiles with a detaching "Subspace" Engine that you'd escort to take out "World Ships" (ships made out of hollowed Asteroids) And a much more strategic campaign, with "Cruisers" being the main workhorse and larger stuff being strategic assets only used in few missions. And...

 I should make a thread for this and start my own mod already dammit.

 

Offline Axem

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Re: Reunion of Freespaceholics
Whelp, this thread makes it evident we should shutdown everything and HLP should turn into a gaming forum! :lol:

 On all seriousness I've been kinda bored of Freespace, too many people are conservative enough to hail Volition as: "The Gods of Gaming Development (TM)" and refuse to even consider the fact that Volition made a game for 1999 and that we should evolve from and not stagnate by remaining 90% what Volition made (which they wouldn't today.) This close minded idea almost completely invalidates the whole point of the SCP into which many people have poured their souls into.

 We need more original campaigns that shake the game-play, we should drop the whole dogfight in space attitude and make something interesting and cool only possible IN SPACE!
Or at least a new art style plz, I'm bored as heck from the old Volition style soulless, colorless texturing from a 1999 game. :(
 
I'd like to add I also believe all Zods should be worshiped as our true lords and masters. SA-VASUDA!

EDIT: If my wording offends someone I apologize, it was not the intention.

I do not know what campaigns you have played, so forgive me if I assume you haven't played the following campaigns:

Wings of Dawn: Completely unique universe! New aliens to make friends with and blow up.
The Antagonist: Again, completely unique universe! Uses community ships and assets to create something that is both very fun and tugs at your brain.
Just Another Day: Okay, biased cause its mine. But its been my own goal to make it fun, and then make it funny. In other campaigns that I've lent myself to, I try to follow the same ethos. Fun first, then we do other things to enhance it.

Things like BP do follow the "traditional" FreeSpace model (in that you have the pre-established gameplay that you might find boring), but the missions try to go beyond that. It's just not Escort Mission #4457, its trying to capture the player in a new way to play and see the universe.


And just in general to the people who spend all their time making other mods with no time to play any others: I do salute your sacrifice! I really wish to see what you all come up with. But if at some point you want a break, or feel that you're burning out by doing too much, there's nothing wrong to see what everyone else has done. You might find inspiration from others work that you might not have come to in a vacuum. After playing The Antagonist, I really liked how the missions were structured. The boss fights were segregated from the shoot em up parts of the campaign, which means losing at the boss, doesn't mean replaying the entire mission over (oh hey some missions of JAD, nice of you to make me die at the very end). That's something I've been building into my missions now.

But don't burn yourself out totally if you can help it*. :( We're not as big as the modding communities for minecraft or half life. People who cease to play FreeSpace hurt us a lot more.


*And by that I don't mean, if you give up you're a traitor. People like Sushi have done great works and, with their own RL things going on, deserve a retirement.

 

Offline karajorma

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Re: Reunion of Freespaceholics
On the other hand, who are we making mods for if everyone is too busy making their own? :confused:

Well in the case of Diaspora, we managed to find a completely new audience. :D But there are plenty of people on HLP who don't mod. I'm sure plenty of them play the mods we make.

I just thought that Spoon's comment that anyone who doesn't play FS2 should feel bad was rather heavy handed. If you're enjoying yourself and contributing to the community, why should you feel bad if you don't play FS2 mods? Sure you're missing out on the opportunity to learn the latest tricks, but I'm certainly not going to insist that everyone has to play.
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Offline Mongoose

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Re: Reunion of Freespaceholics
On the other hand, who are we making mods for if everyone is too busy making their own? :confused:
I don't make stuff, and I like playing stuff other people make!

 
Re: Reunion of Freespaceholics
Some people both mod and play. :P
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Offline MatthTheGeek

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Re: Reunion of Freespaceholics
People are stupid, therefore anything popular is at best suspicious.

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Offline karajorma

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Re: Reunion of Freespaceholics
Some people both mod and play. :P

And some people only do one. And that's okay. :p
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Offline Dilmah G

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Re: Reunion of Freespaceholics
Probably been about 2/3 years since I've played FS on a regular basis. Playtesting for BP was the last time I did any real FSing, and I found that even though I didn't play a lot of FS relative to the other team members, I started to burn out a bit and just not enjoy it as much. It unfortunately also coincided with some RL stuff as well as the upper years of school and so I just never really got back into it.

I always FREDed for fun and to satisfy my BoE/military fiction wet dreams and still did so over the last few years, but other than that I just find it a real effort to do anything else. That, and my computer was notoriously crap for FS and is almost 7 years old. I want to play it again after typing this but ARGH I NEED A NEW COMPUTA

I do like HLP though, it feels kind of like the village bar that I'm happy to simply reside at on the internet, which is why I'm still here despite having very little to do with FS these days.

 

Offline Spoon

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Re: Reunion of Freespaceholics
And some people only do one. And that's okay. :p
And some do none, which is more the impression I'm getting this thread was intended for.

We are making them for the next generation of players who will hear how fun fs is and how good the newer mods are from all the previous... players.... dammit.

yeah we should all just pack up and go home, probably.
Yup.


See? This thread is so bad its poison.
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[02:44] <@Axem> well
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Offline The Dagger

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Re: Reunion of Freespaceholics
Wow, this thread is kind of depressing.

I just played BP yesterday and I count to keep at it today :D. I think the last time I played retail was 4 months ago and there are lots of mods I look forward to.

Maybe it's 'cause I just played Freespace 2 for the first time three years ago. I was looking for a space sim and I found out about HLP. I would probably never have bought FS2 if it wasn't for HLP.

 

Offline Luis Dias

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Re: Reunion of Freespaceholics
I haven't played FS for a year or so cauze my laptop is pretty much in its retirement age and my 3 kids won't let me even think about having a solution for that problem.

 

Offline Axem

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Re: Reunion of Freespaceholics
On the other hand, who are we making mods for if everyone is too busy making their own? :confused:

Well in the case of Diaspora, we managed to find a completely new audience. :D But there are plenty of people on HLP who don't mod. I'm sure plenty of them play the mods we make.

I just thought that Spoon's comment that anyone who doesn't play FS2 should feel bad was rather heavy handed. If you're enjoying yourself and contributing to the community, why should you feel bad if you don't play FS2 mods? Sure you're missing out on the opportunity to learn the latest tricks, but I'm certainly not going to insist that everyone has to play.

Not everyone has the benefit of making a stellar mod and/or stand alone game that goes across every major gaming site. :p

I won't say that everyone should be forced to play, but shouldn't we be encouraging everyone to play? And this thread just seems like it celebrates not playing. Unless its supposed to guilt them into playing again... Then bravo, I guess!

 

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Re: Reunion of Freespaceholics
oh god I haven't played retail fs2 in...
in...
oh frak me I can't remember.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Reunion of Freespaceholics
I can feel Axem's frustration especially because he
  • Makes missions that are technically excellent, probably the most ambitious and sophisticated in the entire community
  • Doesn't have a big splashy post-Capella mod, or a TC, or a new universe to draw attention
  • Does a lot of his original work in comedy, or in experimental stuff

He works his ass off at a talent level that would, in another community (say, HL2 modding) have him routinely pulling press coverage and download numbers to make Diaspora green with envy.

 

Offline Kobrar44

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Re: Reunion of Freespaceholics
..this thread just seems like it celebrates not playing.
I had an impression like this was supposed to be "My name is ***** *****. I am ** years old. I am addicted since ****. I haven't played FS for ** months." but it ended up more like "I haven't played FS for years, what gives?". In other words, too much seriousness here. Or the concept[ppl] simply failed at the very beginning.
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