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Offline Flipside

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If you are going to kidnap children....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-20202734

DON'T have the name of 'Michael Jackson'....

 

Offline SypheDMar

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Re: If you are going to kidnap children....
It'd be something for me to joke about if the child wasn't tied and abused. Hope he'll be alright. I'm glad they found him.

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From Albert English to Michael Jackson? What a dumbass.

 

Offline watsisname

Re: If you are going to kidnap children....
Seriously, how the hell do people get that sick?  Hopefully strong measures are in place to make sure he won't be doing that again in the future.  7 years in prison is a good start.

Hope the victims and their families are able pull through okay, too.  Very sad story. :(
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Re: If you are going to kidnap children....
The guy himself is pretty sick and needs dealing with, but yeah, changing his name to Micheal Jackson just pushes this into the realm of the mildly disturbing.

 

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Re: If you are going to kidnap children....
Mildly? That guy's nuts. I'd rather have him imprisoned for a lifetime, either in prison or mental institution.

 

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my understanding is that it is 7 years before he can apply for parole and one of the conditions is that he is "safe" to be released, so probably won't happen soon and will probably be released via a period in a secure hospital.
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Re: If you are going to kidnap children....
There's a definite inclination whenever this sort of thing is discussed to completely ignore the actual course of justice and propose steadily more overbearing punishments because clearly he's just going to get dropped off next to the nearest school in a few years after getting out early for good behaviour if we allow any possibility for release.
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Re: If you are going to kidnap children....
Yeah except that wasn't actually happening this time so...
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Re: If you are going to kidnap children....
Well, Dragon was heading that way.
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Re: If you are going to kidnap children....
 :( My heart goes out to the children who suffered from this madman, to have to deal with such trauma is life altering.
I hope and pray they can live as children and grow up not corrupted.  Me and my wife raised three children of our own and never had to deal with something as disturbing as this is.

(edit) My two cents. If I had any say in it, this guy would have his balls cut off..
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Re: If you are going to kidnap children....
When I was about 7 I went through an attempted abduction in a car, oddly enough, rather than splash it all over the papers with 'find this wierdo' etc, the only reaction from the Police was to tell me I was right not to get into a car with a stranger. No real attempt was made to find the guy who did it. Different days back then ;)

 

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Re: If you are going to kidnap children....
Mildly? That guy's nuts. I'd rather have him imprisoned for a lifetime, either in prison or mental institution.

id deal with the problem in the vlad the impaler sort of way. i also had an intresting idea a few months back. get a giant plexiglass tank, and chain some pedophiles to the bottom of it. seal em in and at the top of the tank, place public toilets. you literally drown them in human waste in public view, and anyone who wants to can go take a dump. this idea is, needles to say, not original. but i think it would be quite effective.
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Offline Dragon

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Re: If you are going to kidnap children....
Mildly? That guy's nuts. I'd rather have him imprisoned for a lifetime, either in prison or mental institution.

id deal with the problem in the vlad the impaler sort of way. i also had an intresting idea a few months back. get a giant plexiglass tank, and chain some pedophiles to the bottom of it. seal em in and at the top of the tank, place public toilets. you literally drown them in human waste in public view, and anyone who wants to can go take a dump. this idea is, needles to say, not original. but i think it would be quite effective.
Good thinking, Nuke. :yes: Of course, some would complain, but I guess they've never been kidnapped as children. I'm afraid the chances of such method being implemented are slim though. TBH, if I had anything to say, I'd simply have the guy executed. It's UK though, so it's also not an option. He ruined the lives of two children, so it'd seem like a just to deprive him of his. Lifetime imprisonment seems too good for them, especially that there are honest people in Poland who live in worse conditions than UK prisoners.

 

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He ruined the lives of two children, so it'd seem like a just to deprive him of his.

Its not like he killed them, they just have a trauma. So no, I dont see how it is supposed to be just.
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Re: If you are going to kidnap children....
That's the problem between justice and vengeance. It's very easy to get confused between the two.

 

Offline Nuke

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Re: If you are going to kidnap children....
dont think of it as vengence, think of it as showing an example of what happens when you do bad things. i know in the us, these guys would be put in a prison system full of inmates who would like nothing more than to torture, rape, and murder pedophiles. so its all kind of an appropriate hell-simulation. problem is this kinda thing is never used to inspire others to keep their perverse impulses in check. it should be televised and shown as some kind of public service announcement.
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Offline SypheDMar

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Re: If you are going to kidnap children....
Except allowing for death penalties has not shown to be an effective deterrent, and it may increase homicides as well.

e: It's also very expensive in the U.S. and the process is agonizing.

 

Offline Nuke

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its not that you kill them, its that you make everyone watch them suffer.
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Offline Dragon

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He ruined the lives of two children, so it'd seem like a just to deprive him of his.

Its not like he killed them, they just have a trauma. So no, I dont see how it is supposed to be just.
You've never had a trauma, did you? Those kids will feel the effects for the rest of their life, and this won't be pretty. There were two children who had their lives half destroyed, so I'd say it adds up pretty well.
Except allowing for death penalties has not shown to be an effective deterrent, and it may increase homicides as well.

e: It's also very expensive in the U.S. and the process is agonizing.
Well, I'd say it's a pretty effective deterrent once it's applied. I didn't heard to anybody doing whatever they did again. The fact that U.S. can't even execute a convict without wasting taxpayers money is another thing, but it's not like prison maintenance is cheap, either. Tropico 4 illustrates this well. You can build and maintain a prison, hire policemen and put criminals there for 1000$ each. Or you could have them shot for 500$ and give an unrelated, pompous speech to reduce the respect penalty. The choice is rather obvious.
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Re: If you are going to kidnap children....
To all those claiming we should have draconian measures, I just have one sentence to say.

What about those wrongly imprisoned?
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