[StarSlayer]

Can NE secede and rejoin the Commonwealth?

Dear UK,

Sorry about the tea.

Cheers,

New England

[deathfun]

They wouldn't be able to sustain themselves as a country if they were to separate. I doubt any of these states are even remotely self sufficient enough

For the sake of argument: why does this matter?  Lots of countries import significant quantities of necessary goods.

Fair point, but most if not all those imports will have to go through the coast
Chances of goodwill between Loyalists and Separatists is unlikely, and the Loyalists have the Coasts. They'd just have to seize all incoming imports

However, the states that would separate, have the most farmland. In turn, that'd hamper the coasts far more than anything

Could go either way

Question being, is what would happen Economically? If the dollar takes a significant dip, the entire USA might just end up being screwed

[karajorma]

Let them leave. On the account they take the national debt with them.

[BloodEagle]

I'd expect a title like this from Faux News.  You disappoint me, HLP member. 

[sigtau]

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-everyone-signed-petition-withdraw-their-state-united-states-america/dmQl1bXL

Hey guys, let's sign this one

[watsisname]

I think this thread is fulfilling my weekly requirement of amusement. =)

A+

[Nuke]

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-everyone-signed-petition-withdraw-their-state-united-states-america/dmQl1bXL

Hey guys, let's sign this one

nah, but i did sign the one to leegalize marijuana.

[Herra Tohtori]

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-everyone-signed-petition-withdraw-their-state-united-states-america/dmQl1bXL

Hey guys, let's sign this one

Signatures needed by December 12, 2012 to reach goal of 25,000
23,941



 

The white house will probably need to address a whole bunch of these **** petitions.

[Luis Dias]

I know we've been promised a "new" kind of government by the people for the people that was brought by the amazing powers of the internet. What they didn't tell us was how 99% of it was completely wasteful and idiotic nonsense and counter-nonsense. Congratulations, US, you are now entering Gov 2.0: The Trolling Wasteland.

[Bob-san]

• Texas 68K
• Louisiana 28K
• Florida 20K
• Georgia 19K
• Alabama 19K
• Tennessee 19K
• North Carolina 18K
• South Carolina 15K
• Arkansas 14K
• Colorado 14K
• Indiana 13K
• Michigan 13K
• Mississippi 12K
• Kentucky 12K
• Missouri 12K
• Arizona 11K
• New York 11K
• South Carolina 11K (duplicate)
• Oklahoma 11K
• Oregon 10K
• Missouri 10K (duplicate)
• New Jersey 10K
• Montana 10K
• Georgia 9K (duplicate)
• North Dakota 9K
• Pennsylvania 7K
• Nevada 6K
• California 5K
• Ohio 5K
• Delaware 4K
• New York 4K (duplicate)
• Wyoming 4K
• Utah 4K
• Oklahoma 3K (duplicate)
• Alaska 3K
• Kansas 3K
• Pennsylvania 2K (duplicate)
• Nebraska 2K
• Strip possible secessionists of their citizenship 1K
• West Virginia 1K
• Deport possible secessionists 1K
• South Dakota 1K
• Ohio <1K (duplicate)
• Utah <1K (duplicate)

That's a LOT of petitions. 42 petitions presumably representing the citizens of 36 states in favor of possible secession.

[Nuke]

if you add up the numbers and assume that there arent no duplicates (there probibly are) then thats about a half million people who want out.

[General Battuta]

So in other words '**** all'

fe: Most of these people are signatories because they are mad about the election. I can't believe you guys think this will have the slightest effect on anything, or even reflects any particular desire to secede. It's just another permutation of 'moving to Canada'

[Nuke]

if this has really done anything it has reminded me about what i dont like about both political parties. that so many voters decided to side with either the semi-extreme left or the hard extreme right. what they do not realize is that the wider the gap between the parties the more political energy ends up getting wasted on tug of war politics, and less goes to actually solving problems.

i knew johnson wasnt gonna win when i voted, what i didnt expect was that so few people actually voted for him or any other 3rd party candidate to voice their concerns about the major political parties. so most likely nothing of interest will happen. but if it does i will bring sunglasses and a bag of marshmallows and watch it all burn.

[karajorma]

Signatures needed by December 12, 2012 to reach goal of 25,000
23,941



 

The white house will probably need to address a whole bunch of these **** petitions.

It's 22,677 needed now. So it's growing fairly quickly too.

[perihelion]

It's more annoying than anything else.  Especially seeing as I'm living down here right in the midst of it.  (Texas).  Most of the guys at work are talking about these petitions as a laughing matter, as in, "Oh come on, really?  This is going to accomplish anything?"  But not all of them.  And even a lot of the ones that are laughing would jump at the chance to secede if they thought it actually had a chance of succeeding.

It's depressing.  Not because it has a chance in hell of changing anything, but because all of this partisan crap has descended to this level of pettiness.

It's kind of like Nuke said.  All of this energy and potential for communication and potential for actual WORK getting done is getting wasted on bile and vitriol going back and forth between adherents of both dominant political parties.  The nation gets more and more polarized over, "My ****ing terrible political party is better than YOUR ****ing terrible political party."

[Thaeris]

Can we gather all of these fools together to petition for something useful, like abolishing the FEC or making sure the Audit the FED Bill gets to the Senate?

[NGTM-1R]

Audit the FED Bill

Why is it that everyone who demands this is everyone who is least-qualified to understand it?

[Thaeris]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCWXrMCGJT4

Please continue, NGTM-1R...

[Dragon]

I just realized something. Is there anything stopping non-US citizens from signing those petitions, or US citizens not from the state in question?
We could be looking at a pretty large number of troll signatures.

[MR_T3D]

I just realized something. Is there anything stopping non-US citizens from signing those petitions, or US citizens not from the state in question?
We could be looking at a pretty large number of troll signatures.

I know I've signed some of those petitions before, and I'm from the land of maple syrup, ice hockey, beavers, and quebecers