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Offline morris13

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on: June 22, 2001, 02:19:00 pm
Is there a list somewhere of all the 'flags' for the weapons.tbl files and what they do? I know most of them are pretty self explainatory but some arent. examples :
"lockarm" "bomber+" "Puncture" "supercap" "child" "stream"
does anyone know what these do?
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Reply #1 on: June 22, 2001, 02:23:00 pm
my favorite being:

spawn helios, 99

 
     
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Offline aldo_14

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Reply #2 on: June 22, 2001, 02:24:00 pm
I think I know some of these - although i may be wrong;

puncture; inflicts 75% hull damage


supercap -i think it's something to do with the AI, lke the other ship tags (i.e. fighter, cruiser, corvette)  Maybe also to do with command messages (for arrival) / use in FRED2?

stream - not a clue.  I'd guess at something to do with enery use / refire rate

child - (I think) released by a larger missile as part of a swarm - i.e. cluster bomb.
 

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Reply #3 on: June 22, 2001, 02:25:00 pm
Puncture makes it do less damage to the hull, and child means that ships will not be able to fire them...
     
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Reply #4 on: June 22, 2001, 03:11:00 pm
Bomber+ is an AI tag
Lockarm means that you need a lock to arm the missile.
Electronics gives the weapons a D-Missile (FS1) Property.
Stream has to do something with how the lasers look.

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Offline morris13

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Reply #5 on: June 22, 2001, 04:00:00 pm
what does that mean " you need a lock to arm the missile". It doesn't mean you can't fire the missile without lock, because thats what no_dumbfire does. Only the Tornado HAS lockarm, so its not something specific to aspect seekers either. Is this something you 'know', phreak or are you just guessing?
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Reply #6 on: June 23, 2001, 04:09:00 am
Anyway, having a list of all the tags and what they does, for both weapons and ships.tbl, could be handy...

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Reply #7 on: June 23, 2001, 06:02:00 am
Lockarm means you can dumbfire the missile, but it's warhead will not be armed, so it will not do any damage.
 

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Reply #8 on: June 23, 2001, 09:50:00 pm
and supercap is an upgraded "big damage" flag.  And thats coming from DaveB.  Just basically states that weapons with the "supercap" flag can damage ships (hull integrity wise) with the "supercap" flag. execptions are beams

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Reply #9 on: June 24, 2001, 08:41:00 am
Oh... so that's why my barage of helii from my Ptah in that mission did nothing to that sathanas... pffft...
     
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Reply #10 on: June 24, 2001, 03:13:00 pm
I do belive that "stream" means that when you fire a laser, you will see the laser slightly more elongated from the firing point. If you look at the Maxim, you will see that it streams all the way from one end of the hud to the other. But I could be wrong on this.
 

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Reply #11 on: June 24, 2001, 04:21:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by PhReAk:
and supercap is an upgraded "big damage" flag.  And thats coming from DaveB.  Just basically states that weapons with the "supercap" flag can damage ships (hull integrity wise) with the "supercap" flag. execptions are beams

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Ahhh. cool.
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Reply #12 on: June 25, 2001, 05:44:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by venom2506:
Anyway, having a list of all the tags and what they does, for both weapons and ships.tbl, could be handy...


Yes, it would...

Does anyone have some sort of contact with the team at   so this can be done?



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Reply #13 on: June 26, 2001, 12:44:00 pm
Grab out a hex editor and look in the source!   (DOH!)

Looky what I found:
Ships:
no_collide
player_ship
default_player_ship
repair_rearm
cargo
fighter
bomber
transport
freighter
capital
supercap
drydock
cruiser
navbuoy
sentrygun
escapepod
no type
ship copy
in tech database
in tech database multi
dont collide invisible
big damage
corvette
gas miner
awacs
knossos
no_fred

Weapons:
Remote Detonate
Puncture
Big Ship
Huge
Bomber+
child
Bomb
No Dumbfire
In tech database
Player allowed
Particle Spew
EMP
Esuck
Flak
Corkscrew
Shudder
lockarm
beam
stream
supercap

There's a bunch of other stuff in there. All you gotta do is look!   I believe this is how Bobboau found the SSM entry because it's right in there, plain as the nose on my face.

Or... Instead of using a hex editor you could simply copy fs2.exe as a doc file and open it up in wordpad. WARNING: May mess with your memory a little.  

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Reply #14 on: June 26, 2001, 12:49:00 pm
What uses the no_fred tag? The bastion?

Hehe, remove that and put the bastion in missions  
     
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Reply #15 on: June 26, 2001, 01:14:00 pm
 
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What uses the no_fred tag? The bastion?

Hehe, remove that and put the bastion in missions  

No. The Volition Bravos uses that tag.

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Reply #16 on: June 26, 2001, 03:03:00 pm
But this only affects the ship selection on the main window. You can select the Bravos in the ship editor.
 

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Reply #17 on: June 26, 2001, 04:46:00 pm
Ok, now things are getting interesting. I'll put together a TBL Flag Database of sorts, but I need you all for the content, as I don't really do MODs. Sooo....

Start by picking out the flag or flags that you know for sure what they do. Give a nice FAQ-worthy description (please use punctuation!!).

Then move on to the next flag(s). For these unsure ones, offer up all your theories and guesses, and eventually we'll get this thing done.

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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #18 on: June 26, 2001, 06:48:00 pm
Okay, here's some info we've worked out at TPS that might be useful on the repair-rearm. ANY ship can be a repair-rearm ship as long as it has the docking point. However, you can only have one ship for each species with this flag. We know for sure this works with terran and vasudan. we haven't tried making a shivan repair-rearm ship yet. Whatever race the ship is that calls for the rearm gets whatever ship from that race that has the rearm tag. Even capships can be rearming vessels, although you're gonna be waiting a while for them to dock when you call for support. On the other hand, having a rearm ship with beam cannons is rather nifty too.
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Reply #19 on: June 26, 2001, 07:30:00 pm
you can't have support with beams, they're locked.  If a support ship gets killed by a beam, it vaporizes like a fighter no matter how big it is.

 
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