[haloboy100]

My only experience with thatcher is through a musical adaptation of Billy Elliot, so...

[NGTM-1R]

So where's our resident Argentine nationalist anyways? I want to hear his commentary so he can accuse me of being biased and against him.

User banned for one week for this post. - Fineus

[FreeSpaceFreak]

So where's our resident Argentine nationalist anyways? I want to hear his commentary so he can accuse me of being biased and against him.

Oh just drop it...

[Mr. Vega]

1. Industrial production declined by 25% in her first few years as Prime Minister and didn't return to the level at the beginning of her tenure for a decade. The mining industry never recovered from her destruction of the NUM. Presided over the end of British manufacturing power
2. Like Reagan, engaged in pro-rentier policies that favored finance and real-estate leveraging at the expense of any actual wealth creation
3. Launched the Falkland Islands war at the nadir of her popularity during the early 80s recession, leading to an easy reelection campaign
4. Child poverty rate more than doubled during her tenure
5. Was ignominiously removed from office when the the British public refused en masse to pay a poll tax on properties she had instituted

That's all you need to know about her. Put all that on her tombstone.

[NGTM-1R]

Oh just drop it...

Dude, it's hilarious and awesome. I need him to tell me how I feel and think, I'd never know without him!

No but seriously, he's never resisted a chance to get nationalist on us before.

[Luis Dias]

NG, drop it please.

[Fineus]

NGTM-1R has been banned for one week (commencing now) for the above comment. We do not condone blatant flame-bait and I'm tired of standing for it.

Kindly carry on with the topic or move on entirely - this one is not open for debate or comment.

Thank you.

[Al-Rik]

1. Industrial production declined by 25% in her first few years as Prime Minister and didn't return to the level at the beginning of her tenure for a decade. The mining industry never recovered from her destruction of the NUM. Presided over the end of British manufacturing power
2. Like Reagan, engaged in pro-rentier policies that favored finance and real-estate leveraging at the expense of any actual wealth creation
3. Launched the Falkland Islands war at the nadir of her popularity during the early 80s recession, leading to an easy reelection campaign
4. Child poverty rate more than doubled during her tenure
5. Was ignominiously removed from office when the the British public refused en masse to pay a poll tax on properties she had instituted

That's all you need to know about her. Put all that on her tombstone.

That's impressing, and all their fault, isn't it ?

That dropping of industrial production is only their fault, and no effect of the politics of former governments and the start of the globalisation (like cheaper coal imported from abroad killing the mining industry) ?
The rising of the financial sector is only their fault, no effect of the world wide economic boom after the end of the cold war ?
And she arranged the Argentinian invasion of the Falklands to launch the war ?

[Mr. Vega]

The early 1980's recession was caused by the incoming Thatcher administration's tight monetary policy. Like Reagan her administration also carried out the deregulation of the British financial sector and this led to a debt fueled housing bubble that is now in its third or fourth iteration.

Also, world wide economic boom after the end of the Cold War? There was a terrible worldwide recession in 1990 and things didn't pick up again until 1994, when there was another round of deregulation that set off the stock market boom that eventually became the dotcom bubble.

As much as I don't like to play this card, you don't know anything about economics or history, do you?

[Al-Rik]

The early 1980's recession was caused by the incoming Thatcher administration's tight monetary policy. Like Reagan her administration also carried out the deregulation of the British financial sector and this led to a debt fueled housing bubble that is now in its third or fourth iteration.
Also, world wide economic boom after the end of the Cold War? There was a terrible worldwide recession in 1990 and things didn't pick up again until 1994, when there was another round of deregulation that set off the stock market boom that eventually became the dotcom bubble.
As much as I don't like to play this card, you don't know anything about economics or history, do you?

I know enough about economics and history to know that you can't blame a only single person for everything that went wrong - especially in the first year of their term.
And I know enough about history to know what you should blame the attacker for starting a war, not the defender...

[FireSpawn]

[karajorma]

And I know enough about history to know what you should blame the attacker for starting a war, not the defender...

So Argentina then?

[Phantom Hoover]

al-rik is pro-thatcher if you hadn't noticed

[karajorma]

I think I got a little lost as to who was on which side in the last exchange.

[Phantom Hoover]

Happens to all of us.

[karajorma]

Meanwhile, in related news.

[Flipside]

The most fulfilling part of it is watching Daily Mail readers frothing at the mouth

[Mr. Vega]

The early 1980's recession was caused by the incoming Thatcher administration's tight monetary policy. Like Reagan her administration also carried out the deregulation of the British financial sector and this led to a debt fueled housing bubble that is now in its third or fourth iteration.
Also, world wide economic boom after the end of the Cold War? There was a terrible worldwide recession in 1990 and things didn't pick up again until 1994, when there was another round of deregulation that set off the stock market boom that eventually became the dotcom bubble.
As much as I don't like to play this card, you don't know anything about economics or history, do you?

I know enough about economics and history to know that you can't blame a only single person for everything that went wrong - especially in the first year of their term.
And I know enough about history to know what you should blame the attacker for starting a war, not the defender...

You're right on the first count. If you want to trace the decline of industry in the America and Britain, the threads go back to the early 1960s.

But the drastic change of British economic policy in the early 1980s that inflicted massive long term damage was carried out on her watch, with her enthusiastic endorsement and participation. You're right, you can't blame everything on one person, but one person or a political faction swept to power can play a big role in events. In case you forgot.

[BloodEagle]

Is it just me, or have people been celebrating a little too hard over people dying, lately?

[Flipside]

Well, that's the thing that kind of annoys me, when divisive leaders in other countries die, the BBC is quite content to show film of people cheering and burning effigies etc, but when it comes to one of our own divisive leaders, suddenly celebrations are 'uncalled for' and 'disrespectful'...