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Offline redsniper

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Earth-sized planet found in Alpha Centauri
http://io9.com/an-earth-sized-planet-is-orbiting-the-nearest-star-472536843

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Happily for everyone, astronomers at the European Southern Observatory in Chile recently discovered a planet with a mass similar to that of the earth orbiting the sun-like Alpha Centauri B. Indeed, Alpha Centauri Bb is the first planet with an earth-like mass ever found orbiting a sun-like star.

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[20:31] <@Axem> http://io9.com/an-earth-sized-planet-is-orbiting-the-nearest-star-472536843
[20:31] <@Axem> ITS HAPPENING
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Offline Axem

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Re: Earth-sized planet found in Alpha Centauri
Calling Univeristy. Proctor Axem has a nice ring to it.

 

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Re: Earth-sized planet found in Alpha Centauri
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Re: Earth-sized planet found in Alpha Centauri
 Oh man, what are we going to do without Lord Battuta?

 

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He'll be back and for now we'll carry on. Let's not make this about forum politics at all. In the meantime, look forward to Herra, perihielion, etc.
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Re: Earth-sized planet found in Alpha Centauri
Oh sweet.  Sucks that it orbits so close to Centauri B that it's probably a cinder, though. :(

 

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Re: Earth-sized planet found in Alpha Centauri
Oh sweet.  Sucks that it orbits so close to Centauri B that it's probably a cinder, though. :(

It's simple
We move the Centauri B
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Offline Flipside

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Re: Earth-sized planet found in Alpha Centauri
Well, the odds are it's interesting, but not viable, but there always is the very slim chance it is gravitationally locked, which might render it not totally useless.

 

Offline Thaeris

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Re: Earth-sized planet found in Alpha Centauri
But... Proxima is the closest star! The headline of the article is wrong!

...Otherwise, where is my warp drive?!!
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Offline Axem

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Re: Earth-sized planet found in Alpha Centauri
Well, you need to consider that its much easier to find a planet that's closer to the sun. It has a larger chance to be transiting its star at any given point and from findings about other star systems, planets don't seem to be just single cases.

I bet if aliens were looking at our system and saw Mercury passing the sun they would go, "Meh, too close to the star, nothing to see there."

 

Offline Dragon

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Re: Earth-sized planet found in Alpha Centauri
But... Proxima is the closest star! The headline of the article is wrong!

...Otherwise, where is my warp drive?!!
Actually, Proxima Centauri is a part of Alpha Centauri trinary system. It's also known as Alpha Centauri C. So the article is right.

 

Offline Axem

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Re: Earth-sized planet found in Alpha Centauri
If you wish to get extremely pedantic, it is... right. The article headline says "An Earth-Sized Planet is Orbiting the Nearest Star". The nearest star, is of course, our sun! And Earth and Venus are both Earth-sized... so hey, its technically right.

But more to the point, the next nearest star is Proxima Centauri, which the planet is not orbiting around. So in that context, the headline is wrong. "An Earth-Sized Planet found in Alpha Centauri" would be correct.

 
Re: Earth-sized planet found in Alpha Centauri
Whoop!!!  Closest exoplanet yet detected FTFW!  It's only been roughly 20 years since the first one was detected orbiting a pulsar.  Now we've progressed to right next door!  It's only a matter of time, now, before we find one in the sweet spot.  The sky is just chock full of planets!

Flip's right, too.  If it is orbiting that close to its primary, the dayside is likely to be a radioactive deathzone.  But odds are also that it will be tidally locked...  I wonder.  That close to its sun, you'd have to expect solar radiation to have pretty much stripped it of its atmosphere like Mercury, tidally locked or not.  But I'd never really given much thought to what would happen if it were a planet the Earth's size, with enough gravity to hold on to an atmosphere reasonably well.

Man.  Weather could be seriously weird if does have an atmosphere.

EDIT: Having a serious nerdgasm here!  SQUEEE!!!!
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Re: Earth-sized planet found in Alpha Centauri
Here's the original discovery paper, published in October: http://www.eso.org/public/archives/releases/sciencepapers/eso1241/eso1241a.pdf

Though too close to its star to be of astrobiological interest, it makes the system look a lot more promising, now that we know at least one planet has formed there, there's probably going to be more.  And since it's so close its further evidence of how common planets are in the galaxy.  It's an awesome time in astronomy.

 

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I call mother****ing Yang

 

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Offline watsisname

Re: Earth-sized planet found in Alpha Centauri
Eh, I like io9, but they're way behind on this.  This planet was discovered last year.
Nature article

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In fact, it is the lightest exoplanet yet discovered.
At the time it was discovered, maybe, but exoplanet discoveries are proceeding pretty fast, and the record for smallest planet currently goes to this.

Also, take the claim that this planet is Earth-sized with a grain of salt.  Popular articles like to report the mass of planets detected via the radial velocity method as if it's the real value.  It isn't.  For all we know this planet could be many times heavier.

The problem is that the mass of an exoplanet is determined as a function of its orbital inclination angle.  The less edge-on the orbit is from our perspective, the smaller the component of the star's velocity due to the planet we measure, and the more we underestimate the planet's mass.  Therefore what astronomers are reporting is the minimum mass, Msini, where i is the inclination angle.  The only ways we can only measure this angle if we can image the planet directly and trace the orbit, or if it happens to transit its host star in which case the angle is 90°.  Statistically, most planets have true masses pretty close to that minimum, but it is not good to keep saying that it is equal.

Still, this is a really nice find, and does support the hypothesis that most or even all stars bear planetary systems.  This was also an extremely difficult detection, requiring a radial velocity measurement precise to only half a meter per second.  That's incredible.
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Offline Nuke

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Re: Earth-sized planet found in Alpha Centauri
i would want to know how stable that system is, considering the highly elliptical orbit of alpha centauri b. seems like it would play havok with everything when it gets to its perihelion.
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Offline Luis Dias

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Re: Earth-sized planet found in Alpha Centauri
Apparently stable enough not to take this planet out of its orbit. However, it's highly unlikely for there being a planet in the habitable zone of both these stars. If there's an interesting planet in alpha centauri, it's probably lurking in proxima.