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Game of Thrones 3x04 - And Now His Watch Is Ended
on: April 22, 2013, 07:15:49 pm
For the first time so far, a scene in the show is way better than in the books (Astapor).

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Re: Game of Thrones 3x04 - And Now His Watch Is Ended
Reply #1 on: April 23, 2013, 12:38:34 am
Discuss?

It was ****ing awesome!
I've never seen something so... so satisfying...
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Re: Game of Thrones 3x04 - And Now His Watch Is Ended
Reply #2 on: April 24, 2013, 04:53:13 pm
I think Sir Jora had a religious experience there
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Re: Game of Thrones 3x04 - And Now His Watch Is Ended
Reply #3 on: April 24, 2013, 04:57:39 pm
Danaerys has my vote for Queen of Westeros!
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Re: Game of Thrones 3x04 - And Now His Watch Is Ended
Reply #4 on: April 24, 2013, 04:58:47 pm
**** danaerys, stannis 4 life
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Re: Game of Thrones 3x04 - And Now His Watch Is Ended
Reply #5 on: April 24, 2013, 08:00:02 pm
**** you both. Syrio Forel for king. :p
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Re: Game of Thrones 3x04 - And Now His Watch Is Ended
Reply #6 on: April 25, 2013, 12:55:08 am
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Re: Game of Thrones 3x04 - And Now His Watch Is Ended
Reply #7 on: April 26, 2013, 12:39:51 am
I was looking forward to how the Sack of Astapor was portrayed. I was not disappointed.

And Ramsay Bolton messing with Theon was entirely accurate. I am (not) looking forward to seeing more of him.

In other news, nekkid Ygritte and Sandor vs Dondarrian next episode.
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Re: Game of Thrones 3x04 - And Now His Watch Is Ended
Reply #8 on: April 26, 2013, 11:28:37 pm
A dragon is not a slave, indeed.


I want that music
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Re: Game of Thrones 3x04 - And Now His Watch Is Ended
Reply #9 on: April 27, 2013, 12:22:15 am
I want this music. Best ending credits of all time?
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Re: Game of Thrones 3x04 - And Now His Watch Is Ended
Reply #10 on: April 30, 2013, 02:22:26 pm
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Re: Game of Thrones 3x04 - And Now His Watch Is Ended
Reply #11 on: April 30, 2013, 02:28:18 pm
Tywin is one of my favorite characters.  Charles Dance deserves an award.
 

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Re: Game of Thrones 3x04 - And Now His Watch Is Ended
Reply #12 on: April 30, 2013, 03:09:36 pm
Are they back to following the plot lines of the books yet, or does season 3 pull more of the season 2 bull**** and throw in changes for no apparent reasons other than to mess with the written story?
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Re: Game of Thrones 3x04 - And Now His Watch Is Ended
Reply #13 on: April 30, 2013, 03:46:13 pm
Is that really a thing that one should care about? No adaptation will ever be accurate; Personally, I'm just happy getting really good telly out of this.

I mean, just as the LOTR films were not direct translation of the books to make them work better as films, this isn't a direct translation of the books so the story works better in the TV show format.

(Disclaimer: I have never read the books, and do not intend to)
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Re: Game of Thrones 3x04 - And Now His Watch Is Ended
Reply #14 on: April 30, 2013, 05:44:05 pm
Quote from: MP-Ryan on April 30, 2013, 03:09:36 pm
Are they back to following the plot lines of the books yet, or does season 3 pull more of the season 2 bull**** and throw in changes for no apparent reasons other than to mess with the written story?

You've presumably read the books, and are therefore unable to evaluate changes made for TV from the perspective of someone who doesn't already understand the major plot points.
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Reply #15 on: April 30, 2013, 08:48:57 pm
Just saw 3x05 - only thing I'll say is that I really like how bold they're being with the songs in this show... having The Bear and the Maiden Fair as the end credits song a few weeks ago, and then having Patchface's jingle this week... quite bold. :)
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Re: Game of Thrones 3x04 - And Now His Watch Is Ended
Reply #16 on: April 30, 2013, 11:41:42 pm
Quote from: PhantomHoover on April 30, 2013, 05:44:05 pm
Quote from: MP-Ryan on April 30, 2013, 03:09:36 pm
Are they back to following the plot lines of the books yet, or does season 3 pull more of the season 2 bull**** and throw in changes for no apparent reasons other than to mess with the written story?

You've presumably read the books, and are therefore unable to evaluate changes made for TV from the perspective of someone who doesn't already understand the major plot points.

Indeed.

Therefore, I'm wondering if anyone else who has read the books can comment if they've quit diverging as significantly in season 3 as they did in season 2.  I know Martin is a creative consultant for the show and he's helping streamline, but honestly the plots of the books have enough confusion written in without adding an alternate version in a TV show.  It's annoying, because the show is quite good, but there were some conflicting point points emerging in season 2, to the point where I said screw it and stopped watching.
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Re: Game of Thrones 3x04 - And Now His Watch Is Ended
Reply #17 on: May 01, 2013, 12:00:28 am
I would recommend Season 3 quite heartily - while I am happy to talk **** about everything wrong with both books and show, I think S3 has been really strong.
 

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Reply #18 on: May 01, 2013, 12:17:09 am
MP, they are still making some derivations from the books, the most noticeable so far are that Jamie and Brienne are captured by Dreadfort banner men rather than the Bloody Mummers, Ser Barristan entered Daenerys' service openly instead of utilizing an alias (and not accompanied by Strong Belwas), Sam has yet to earn his nickname before things went sour at Crasters' Keep and Theon's having some odd and confusing times at Dreadfort.

The changes are still developing, so I can't hazard a guess if they will play out as good or better than the books, that said it's been a strong season so far.  Adventures in contracts and negotiations in Astapor being particularly well executed.
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Re: Game of Thrones 3x04 - And Now His Watch Is Ended
Reply #19 on: May 01, 2013, 02:05:37 am
Quote from: StarSlayer on May 01, 2013, 12:17:09 am
MP, they are still making some derivations from the books, the most noticeable so far are that Jamie and Brienne are captured by Dreadfort banner men rather than the Bloody Mummers, Ser Barristan entered Daenerys' service openly instead of utilizing an alias (and not accompanied by Strong Belwas), Sam has yet to earn his nickname before things went sour at Crasters' Keep and Theon's having some odd and confusing times at Dreadfort.

The changes are still developing, so I can't hazard a guess if they will play out as good or better than the books, that said it's been a strong season so far.  Adventures in contracts and negotiations in Astapor being particularly well executed.

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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
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