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Offline Lorric

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Guess I shouldn't mention the beetle I taped to a target and shot with an air rifle
Oh wait

After you move up to humans, or creatures enough people care about to try to put a stop to it, if you haven't already, I hope they catch you. I think you will/already are doing. You enjoy it too much I think. You're just bursting to talk about it. I can tell by the way you write about it.

But since you're here, let's chat, shall we? As much as you are everything I abhor, there is a certain fascination in talking to my complete opposite.

So how does it feel? Compared to other things, how does it feel? Where on the enjoyment scale does your murdering lie? When did you first start to enjoy it? Has the enjoyment lessened or increased as you age?

 

Offline watsisname

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I sometimes enjoy tossing random bugs into a spider's web and watching the spider do its thing.

Naughty little fly...
Why does he cry?
Caught in a web.
Soon you'll be...
EATEN. :U
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Offline deathfun

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So how does it feel? Compared to other things, how does it feel? Where on the enjoyment scale does your murdering lie? When did you first start to enjoy it? Has the enjoyment lessened or increased as you age?

It's a source of amusement. It feels like everything else that is a source of amusement. There's no scale, only absolutes.
That being it amuses me, or it doesn't. My typing may seem like I enjoy some things more than others, but it really isn't the case. There is simply more to describe about insects than my latest non-adventures on some game I've been playing

It started when boredom struck and I only had myself to provide amusement. I just did it more before since I actually went outside. These days I don't leave my computer

Though when termites start flying around (and there is hundreds of them mucking about) I take two shoes and clap them. What is left is just a couple wings fluttering downwards

It's quite hilarious actually. Hell, even my parents got a kick out of it
"No"

 

Offline Lorric

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So how does it feel? Compared to other things, how does it feel? Where on the enjoyment scale does your murdering lie? When did you first start to enjoy it? Has the enjoyment lessened or increased as you age?

It's a source of amusement. It feels like everything else that is a source of amusement. There's no scale, only absolutes.
That being it amuses me, or it doesn't. My typing may seem like I enjoy some things more than others, but it really isn't the case. There is simply more to describe about insects than my latest non-adventures on some game I've been playing

It started when boredom struck and I only had myself to provide amusement. I just did it more before since I actually went outside. These days I don't leave my computer

Though when termites start flying around (and there is hundreds of them mucking about) I take two shoes and clap them. What is left is just a couple wings fluttering downwards

It's quite hilarious actually. Hell, even my parents got a kick out of it

So you are either amused equally by all things or not amused at all?

Well, if you only did it out of boredom and you're not going out of your way to kill stuff anymore, maybe you won't go on to "bigger" things.

 

Offline deathfun

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You make it sound like people who kill insects are inherently serial killers in the making
"No"

 

Offline Lorric

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You make it sound like people who kill insects are inherently serial killers in the making

They can be, those that enjoy it. You can trace the start of it back to insects or other creatures in some cases. I know I am in the minority in caring about their tiny lives, but most people will have no emotional attachment in killing insects, they're just in the way or annoying and removed with all the emotion of taking out garbage.

 

Offline deathfun

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Mosquitoes will never have my sympathies
"No"

 

Offline watsisname

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most people will have no emotional attachment in killing insects\

Hmm, not sure if I agree.  Getting enjoyment out of killing things -- and I should specify here that I mean creatures that are abundant, 'not intelligent', or undesirable such that people generally don't feel horrible about killing them -- strikes me as something that is pretty common.  Probably because it causes a sense of superiority over nature ("I'm bigger and smarter and more powerful than thou, I am top of evolutionary chain, look how easily I smash thee, wrar").

This should not at all be construed as as an argument about its ethics, however.  Like you, Lorric, I do not like to kill things if its utterly unnecessary, or in ways that are prolonged and painful.
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Offline karajorma

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Mosquitoes will never have my sympathies

Given that kilo for kilo the body count might be of the same order of magnitude, I don't see any reason not to kill any mosquito dumb enough to try to take a bite out of me.
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Offline Lorric

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Mosquitoes will never have my sympathies

Does anything?

most people will have no emotional attachment in killing insects\

Hmm, not sure if I agree.  Getting enjoyment out of killing things -- and I should specify here that I mean creatures that are abundant, 'not intelligent', or undesirable such that people generally don't feel horrible about killing them -- strikes me as something that is pretty common.  Probably because it causes a sense of superiority over nature ("I'm bigger and smarter and more powerful than thou, I am top of evolutionary chain, look how easily I smash thee, wrar").

This should not at all be construed as as an argument about its ethics, however.  Like you, Lorric, I do not like to kill things if its utterly unnecessary, or in ways that are prolonged and painful.

I don't know about that in. In nature, it is most uncommon. Killing is done for a good reason in the vast majority of cases. Even when something is toyed with it is generally then killed and eaten.

You could make the same argument for people. I live in a large town. I could kill someone every week and not even touch the population of the town. I could kill 50 people every day and not touch the country population. The deaths would be a tiny fraction compared to other causes of death like heart failure and cancer.

Mosquitoes will never have my sympathies

Given that kilo for kilo the body count might be of the same order of magnitude, I don't see any reason not to kill any mosquito dumb enough to try to take a bite out of me.

While I don't encounter mosquitoes in England, I imagine I would slap at a mosquito if it tried to feed on me.

 

Offline Kobrar44

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Back in the good times spent in a looney bin in the middle of a forest, hornets would get into our rooms through holes in mosquito nets at night. We, as men, always called for some girl to kill them :lol: So pathetic..
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Offline deathfun

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Does anything?

Nothing deserves it
So yes, your question is well put
"No"

 

Offline watsisname

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You could make the same argument for people. I live in a large town. I could kill someone every week and not even touch the population of the town.

Sure, if you are okay with killing fellow humans, are so confident in your ability to kill them easily as to be akin to squishing bugs, and if you also don't care about the consequences of getting caught.  Otherwise it is not at all the same argument.

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I don't know about that in. In nature, it is most uncommon. Killing is done for a good reason in the vast majority of cases. Even when something is toyed with it is generally then killed and eaten.

It is present though uncommon in nature, sure.  But I'm speaking about humans, who behave rather differently than animals despite also being animals.  What inspired you to try burning ants with a magnifying glass as a kid?  I hypothesize that it's not fundamentally different than what motivates deathfun to do what he does today.  I hypothesize the difference is that some develop a view of ethical treatment of bugs, while others don't.

(Offense not intended to deathfun; I'm not saying he's acting like a kid.)
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Offline Lorric

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Does anything?

Nothing deserves it
So yes, your question is well put

Are you capable of it?

 

Offline Lorric

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You could make the same argument for people. I live in a large town. I could kill someone every week and not even touch the population of the town.

Sure, if you are okay with killing fellow humans, are so confident in your ability to kill them easily as to be akin to squishing bugs, and if you also don't care about the consequences of getting caught.  Otherwise it is not at all the same argument.

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I don't know about that in. In nature, it is most uncommon. Killing is done for a good reason in the vast majority of cases. Even when something is toyed with it is generally then killed and eaten.

It is present though uncommon in nature, sure.  But I'm speaking about humans, who behave rather differently than animals despite also being animals.  What inspired you to try burning ants with a magnifying glass as a kid?  I hypothesize that it's not fundamentally different than what motivates deathfun to do what he does today.  I hypothesize the difference is that some develop a view of ethical treatment of bugs, while others don't.

(Offense not intended to deathfun; I'm not saying he's acting like a kid.)

Yes, that's what I meant. If you had the power to do it.

? You're the one who burned the ants. Why are you asking me?

Deathfun is probably a sociopath going by his latest comment.

 

Offline watsisname

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Oh, I misread your earlier quote, my bad.
In my world of sleepers, everything will be erased.
I'll be your religion, your only endless ideal.
Slowly we crawl in the dark.
Swallowed by the seductive night.

 

Offline deathfun

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(Offense not intended to deathfun; I'm not saying he's acting like a kid.)

Pssh
Course I'm a kid
A kid at heart
Gotta cling on to the important stuff myte
"No"

 

Offline Nuke

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its almost fishing season. i usually have a ritualized torture-murder session that comes after landing a fish, it involves a slow disembowelment with care taken to make sure the fish survives every cut and slice, and then remove the organs in order of increasing necessity. and finally i take off the head in a slow sawing motion. then i take their corpses home and fry them in a lemon butter sauce. i kinda want to apply those techniques to hunting, but i always end up hitting something critical and the buck dies before i can make it long for death.
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Offline Lorric

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its almost fishing season. i usually have a ritualized torture-murder session that comes after landing a fish, it involves a slow disembowelment with care taken to make sure the fish survives every cut and slice, and then remove the organs in order of increasing necessity. and finally i take off the head in a slow sawing motion. then i take their corpses home and fry them in a lemon butter sauce. i kinda want to apply those techniques to hunting, but i always end up hitting something critical and the buck dies before i can make it long for death.

I call bull****.

It's a fish, it'll die pretty soon from suffocation after it has been landed anyway.

And if you make things you want to eat die in that manner, it will drastically reduce the quality of the meat.