[Nico]

it works on my PC now
Happy I am
still have hardware pbs tho, now it's my screen, it's all blury
anyway, at least, now, I can play at home ( scrapped windows 2000 for XP, fixed most pbs - to those who like W2000: "her... yeah right " ).
Warcraft is realy cool, and so damn funny ( I love the peasants, they're so dumb lol ).
It rules and I dispise you,  Stryke9, who give your opinion while not even having tried it: opinion about something you don't know = ****

[NeoHunter]

I love the the fact that you can actually blow up Critters just by clicking multiple times on them. And when they explode, they really EXPLODE and the whole ground around them vibrates like jelly!!! Hahaa...and that stupid Demon Hunter is funny too when you click on him a lot of times. The last one is the best and the longest piece of crap I have ever heard!! You guys should try it!!!:lol:

[Redfang]

Originally posted by NeoHunter
I love the the fact that you can actually blow up Critters just by clicking multiple times on them.

 
That was already in Warcraft 2. That's really funny.

[Dark_4ce]

HOLY ****! I just read about an easter egg in Warcraft III. IF you play thru the game in HARD you will be treated with a 20 second clip of Starcraft 2 using the Warcraft III engine!

[Nico]

yeah right

[Dark_4ce]

Yeah I know... Sounds a bit far fetched, but hell I'll give it a shot.

[vadar_1]

uhhuh... rite... except blizzard officially announced no plans for star2. The only easter egg is the marine, zealot, hydralisk, zergling, firebat, and spaceorc (havn't seen the space orc). Only the hydralisk has sounds. You have to use the create unit trigger, manually type in the string hydralisk, marine, etc...

if you dont want to do that, heres the immiedate proof:

go to the sound editor in worldedit, under neutral NPCs there is the hydralisk sounds.

[Dark_4ce]

It could just as well be some 20 second ingame cutscene using those models. Who knows...

[Nico]

Originally posted by vadar_1
uhhuh... rite... except blizzard officially announced no plans for star2. The only easter egg is the marine, zealot, hydralisk, zergling, firebat, and spaceorc (havn't seen the space orc). Only the hydralisk has sounds. You have to use the create unit trigger, manually type in the string hydralisk, marine, etc...

if you dont want to do that, heres the immiedate proof:

go to the sound editor in worldedit, under neutral NPCs there is the hydralisk sounds.

woot, didn't know that. well, i'm not done yet with the solo campaigns anyway ( orc campaign, got crush in the 5 first minutes of a mission, I suspect direct defense is NOT an option against a demigod when you have less than ten units . I've seen a mark on the ground to the north of the map, next time, gonna build a rocklobber and... flee... through the trees )
haven't checked the editor yet, but I've heard it's insanely powerful, any possibility to import meshes?

[vadar_1]

Originally posted by venom2506

haven't checked the editor yet, but I've heard it's insanely powerful, any possibility to import meshes?

Its powerful to a degree, but overly complex. The trigger system has a better layout then staredit, but its more confusing then it needs to be. You have so many worthless triggers that are just clones of otherones. 75% of the triggers are used for in-game movie making, but that makes it even worse.

You can however, edit of aspects of units, including adding custom units. You can change their attack, give them another attack, or take them all away. Give them spells, a mana bar, give them countless flags. Its like having an internal stardraft. The one thing you cant edit is spells or upgrades. You can only enable/disable them from use in the mission. This is actually a step down from staredit, where you could at least change the research time/cost/ and mana cost. I was hoping you could edit such aspects as damage, area of effect, color, etc.

To sum things up, worldedit sucks. And you cannot import meshes.

[IceFire]

Ok....against Centaurius...ignore all but the base in the bottom right.  Build that base up and defend it well.  He won't come for it...but his units will.  But you can defeat them so no problems.

Instead...work your way north from there.  Blast a path through a few trees and head to the healing stone or whatever its called (its been infused with Demon blood).  Now you'll be able to beat Cenarius.

[YodaSean]

Originally posted by Dark_4ce
HOLY ****! I just read about an easter egg in Warcraft III. IF you play thru the game in HARD you will be treated with a 20 second clip of Starcraft 2 using the Warcraft III engine!

Yeah I saw a picture of it somewhere.  I don't think its starcraft 2 though, just some starcraft units battling in Warcraft 3.  I think someone made a map where you can use those units, but I have yet to find it


Oh and how do you get past Orc mission 4?  Its the one where you need to get lots of wood

[Nico]

easy: as soon as possible, go to the mine right to the north of your base, and build a mot of defense towers ( I built 12, in inversed U shape ). once this is done, go to the south/west, very small village to crush, with a very big mine ( 37000 gold at least ). build a few towers. then go crush the bear men, go meat the gobelin, and with his two mecha dudes, I didn't even have the time to kill all the trees of life or whatever, I gathered the needed wood before . The mission is easy if you start well ( once the fortifications at the north of your first base are built, well, it's just piece of cake ).

Icefire: how the hell can you defend the base at the south east? I don't even have the time to build 3 grunts before at least 20 black elves fall on the corner of my face ( yeah, on this base ). Well, maybe I didn't have luck after all.

[Dark_4ce]

Yup, I played through it on hard. And there was a short 20 second little ingame scene with starcraft characters. If you want to know what it is: Basically a dark barren ground with a few flames spiting out, income the marines who inturn start shooting at a maurauding band of Zerg. The plow them down. Then from over the hill come some kind of Space Orc. Looked rather funny actually They had some sort of flame thrower. So they battle it out, until once again the marines beat the orcs. Though they did manage to get a few casualties along with a flaming marine. Then amongst the carnage a lone sheep walks in. It baahs, and explodes killing all the marines.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Dark_4ce
Yup, I played through it on hard. And there was a short 20 second little ingame scene with starcraft characters. If you want to know what it is: Basically a dark barren ground with a few flames spiting out, income the marines who inturn start shooting at a maurauding band of Zerg. The plow them down. Then from over the hill come some kind of Space Orc. Looked rather funny actually They had some sort of flame thrower. So they battle it out, until once again the marines beat the orcs. Though they did manage to get a few casualties along with a flaming marine. Then amongst the carnage a lone sheep walks in. It baahs, and explodes killing all the marines.

space orcs? damn, blizzard games are really 100% inspired from both warhammer worlds, I always thought that, and that really won't make me change my mind ^_^

[Dark_4ce]

Originally posted by venom2506


space orcs? damn, blizzard games are really 100% inspired from both warhammer worlds, I always thought that, and that really won't make me change my mind ^_^

Yup they are. One of the Orcish wolf riders even says "My warhammer cost 40K! Heheheheh..." But hell, theres a game they should really make. Or atleast like a mod for Warcraft 3. The original is too much like Warhammer, but to have a MOD for Warhammer 40,000 would rock! Thats the tabletop game I play. Though its kinda heavy on the pocket. So lately I've been just trudging along playing with my medium sized army. But I want MORE!!!

[TheCelestialOne]

Eeerrrr... someone said the cut scenes rivaled FF cut scenes... I believe you have to look at FFX. It has cut scenes that get you to drool. Even the in game graphics are wonderfull.

Example :

Warcraft III :
Cut scene :
http://www.warcraft.org/resources/war3ss/640/w3cs6.jpg
In game/battle :
http://www.blizzard.com/images/war3/screens/s13-xl.jpg

FFX cutscene :
http://216.40.211.9/gp2a/final_fantasy_x_lr_12.jpg
FFX ingame :
http://www.happypuppy.com/images/features/ffX_art/ffx-art-1wx.jpg
FFX in battle :
http://www.happypuppy.com/images/features/ffX_art/ffx-art-2j.jpg
http://www.happypuppy.com/images/features/ffX_art/ffx-art-2f.jpg

In my opinion FFX has way batter graphics. Although Warcraft has very good graphics as well I think they do not keep up with FFX.

This is just my humble opinion on the graphics...

[Nico]

come on, what's that pic you're showing us? go and WATCH ( yeah, really, watch ) a warcraft3 cutscene before comparing stuff. I've seen them, I've seen the FFX ones ( I even have one on my HD mind you), my job is right into that kind of stuff, and believe me, it's the exact same level ( best exemple would be the close up of the king's face during the first human cutscene, when the... dude that turns into a crow appears before him ).
edit: sure, the ingame graphics are better for FFX. Of course, FFX won't have to handle a huge map with 180 units, 20 NPC and 80 buildings ( most of them animated, some even walking ) at the same time. To resume: you can't even compare.

Btw, Dark4ce, there's a warhammer game in production ( warhammer online ) and it does seem quite cool actually.
You play warhammer? Well, me too ( for the greateset despair of my wallet
I got: Warhammer FB: a huge orc army, a medium lizardmen army, a small chaos army ( I play only my orcs tho - so I lose every time )
Warhammer 40K: a medium Tau army, and a handful of space marines and zerg... tyranids  I mean ( )
I also have a little mordheim band ( skavens ), but I never completed it.

[TheCelestialOne]

FFX cut scenes on the PC are not the same as on the PS2. Believe me. I have a heavy duty computer but still its better on the ps2. And I have Warcraft 3 and the graphics in the cut scenes may be equal but in game FFX is cetainly better.

[Nico]

read my edit about the ingame gfx. ( and sure, the PC cutscenes are better, higher res, nah ).