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Offline Fury

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Re: I rage at you, Microsoft
One of the issues I encountered with upgrade to 8.1 is caused by VirtualBox 4.3 and also appears to affect some versions of VMWare vSphere. Unfortunately older versions of VirtualBox are even more incompatible with Windows 8.1. It would seem that reducing number of available CPU's in virtual machines to 1 solves the problem.

Maybe I should see if migrating to Hyper-V is a viable choice. Last time I tried Hyper-V it didn't work with my 4G modem at all though, so chances of Hyper-V working now aren't that good.

 

Offline Fury

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Yet another Win8.1 problem. It's been nearly two months since I've had time to play any games, so I probably won't encounter this problem anytime soon...

 

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I know i'm wierd on this topic. But, i am using it to learn more about windows 8.
Every pilot's goal is to rise up in the ranks and go beyond their purpose to a place of command on a very big ship. Like the colossus; to baseball bat everyone.

SMBFD

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Mh.. so far 8.1 works fine for me on 3 different PC's.

One of them was an Windows 8 Upgrade from a fresh Vista install even.
(Finally something that those leftover VISTA boxes are good for LOL.)


Still using Win7 on my work box though - just in case - where all I want is no nonsense / reliability.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it ... lol.

 

Offline FlamingCobra

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It's exactly this kind of **** that made me start learning how to use Debian.

 

Offline Fury

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MS released hotfix to Win8.1 mouse issues.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279

Supports following games:
Call of Duty: Black Ops
Call of Duty: Black Ops - Multiplayer
Call of Duty: Black Ops II
Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Multiplayer
Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Zombies
Call of Duty: Ghosts - Multiplayer
Call of Duty: MW2
Call of Duty: MW2 - Multiplayer
Call of Duty: MW3
Call of Duty: MW3 - Multiplayer
Call of Duty: MW
Call of Duty: MW - Multiplayer
Counter Strike: Global Offensive
Counter Strike: Source
Deus Ex : Human Revolution
Deus Ex : Human Revolution Director's Cut
Hitman Absolution
Hitman Sniper Challenge
Half Life 2
Metro 2033
Portal
Tomb Raider

And for any game that's not listed but has mouse issues, it is possible to add support by editing registry and running rundll32 with certain parameters.

 

Offline S-99

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I know this will get negative attention drawn toward me. I'll be hailed as an idiot, as someone who can't fix their own computer, etc.

Then again, i've been hailed as an idiot from a definite idiot who didn't want to upgrade from win98.

I still highly don't recommend running as admin 24/7 in windows. You know, because preventative measures to lessen work are stupid and all :lol:
In before someone says i don't know how to fix computers (and somehow it is theorized that i will actually care what they're occupation is...that person certainly went on a personal attack tirade, and in the end i was still right), that i let my computers treat me like an idiot, that i'm afraid to get into the nitty gritty, that i don't know what i'm actually doing, etc.

Yeah, preventative maintenance results in bad stuff (yeesh).

All i can say is from my rant. Windows 7 is actually decent, then again, windows vista is more decent (windows 7 is windows vista with features removed). It's why i told my dad not to upgrade from vista because that would be 100% pointless. Now, as much as i don't like using windows from a technical standpoint dealing mainly with it's inefficiencies, I don't hate it, i just know it could be better (this is why i run linux). But, windows 8 was such a folley. Don't buy it just to be hip and new. But, in all seriousness staving away from the bugs it has (it's still new, i will fault them on this, i have choice in running stable software while remaining up to date...without spending money is a different thing i'm not focussing on currently, but, you think microsoft would like to release stable products).

When you have to make a microsoft account, and enter in a phone number, and more information about yourself just to make a user account. I ask why people would want to subject themselves to more bull****. Want to make as many user accounts as you want with different permission settings the easy way? Fine, then run win2k/xp/vista/7. You'll get it done a lot easier and faster. The actual point i'm reaching here is this, ease of use is out the door; windows 7 is the last of it's kind for windows. That's the part i don't like, because it diverges almost completely from standard ways of doing things on computers to more difficult steps to take to get something rather easy done to difficult.

I'm use to making other user accounts for users on other systems, i should be able to do it without the user being there. Asking them to make a microsoft account or whatever, phone number, full name, address for adding to a system. When it's not your own system running windows 8 doing this. Then, you'll think differently when you're (just for example) going to college and the staff make you a user account for the campus system (why is the tech asking so much information about me? are they a creep?). This makes it even more difficult to work on windows because it guarantees more down time in the area of working on user accounts.
Every pilot's goal is to rise up in the ranks and go beyond their purpose to a place of command on a very big ship. Like the colossus; to baseball bat everyone.

SMBFD

I won't use google for you.

An0n sucks my Jesus ring.

 

Offline Ghostavo

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You don't have to use a Microsoft account to use Windows 8, you can use local accounts...
"Closing the Box" - a campaign in the making :nervous:

Shrike is a dirty dirty admin, he's the destroyer of souls... oh god, let it be glue...

 

Offline S-99

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You don't have to use a Microsoft account to use Windows 8, you can use local accounts...
Oh good. Seriously, that's good to know. But, i didn't like the one time i was working on a windows a touchscreen laptop. There was no way to make a new user account without making a microsoft account. And well, before the start menu was released for windows 8. There was no other way to do it. Control panel was just lacking more than usual. The damn girl just wanted to retitle here user account name. The only work around i could find was performing a reinstall, which would bring up the prompt for a user account. Then again, windows 8.1 brought some features back. This was before 8.1.

And even still...

Now i understand what you mean. But, i guess settings were buried, hidden, and not to be found so easily; i'm used to that, i couldn't find anything (another thing not so easy to find in windows 7 is resizing the taskbar (not a complaint of 8, but windows in general, it's easy as pie to go into the properties of a linux task manager and be able to actually resize it)). This i guess is new what you're letting me know about. It gets down to what should be easy to find, why isn't it easy to find?
« Last Edit: November 09, 2013, 06:43:18 am by S-99 »
Every pilot's goal is to rise up in the ranks and go beyond their purpose to a place of command on a very big ship. Like the colossus; to baseball bat everyone.

SMBFD

I won't use google for you.

An0n sucks my Jesus ring.

 

Offline Ghostavo

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I'm not sure why you think it's not easy to find, when the first time you are booting Windows 8, it explicitly gives you the choice between a local and a windows account.

If afterwards, you try to create a new account, the option is still there to create a local account...
"Closing the Box" - a campaign in the making :nervous:

Shrike is a dirty dirty admin, he's the destroyer of souls... oh god, let it be glue...

 

Offline S-99

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You  miss the point. As i detailed earlier, i had to work on someone elses computer who had previously selected the windows account option. And no, the option was quite not there to create a local account. Maybe i couldn't find it. But, i'm pretty damn sure it was harder to find so that microsoft could have more people use a microsoft account instead.
Every pilot's goal is to rise up in the ranks and go beyond their purpose to a place of command on a very big ship. Like the colossus; to baseball bat everyone.

SMBFD

I won't use google for you.

An0n sucks my Jesus ring.

 

Offline Ghostavo

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You  miss the point. As i detailed earlier, i had to work on someone elses computer who had previously selected the windows account option. And no, the option was quite not there to create a local account. Maybe i couldn't find it. But, i'm pretty damn sure it was harder to find so that microsoft could have more people use a microsoft account instead.

You can also unlink your current account from the microsoft account.

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"Closing the Box" - a campaign in the making :nervous:

Shrike is a dirty dirty admin, he's the destroyer of souls... oh god, let it be glue...

 

Offline S-99

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This is good to know. But, to what affect? They already collected your information.
Every pilot's goal is to rise up in the ranks and go beyond their purpose to a place of command on a very big ship. Like the colossus; to baseball bat everyone.

SMBFD

I won't use google for you.

An0n sucks my Jesus ring.

 

Offline The E

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All i can say is from my rant. Windows 7 is actually decent, then again, windows vista is more decent (windows 7 is windows vista with features removed).

Like, for example?

I'm serious, I am unaware of any feature from Vista that wasn't also present in 7. Please enlighten us.
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Offline Rodo

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A few days back I was able to lay my hands on a win8 laptop.
After a few minutes toying with it I came to the conclusion this version is completely oriented towards touch screens, and thus not usefull to me until I actually get a touch screen for my pc.
win7 I hug u 4eva.
el hombre vicio...

 

Offline Fury

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Re: I rage at you, Microsoft
All i can say is from my rant. Windows 7 is actually decent, then again, windows vista is more decent (windows 7 is windows vista with features removed).

Like, for example?

I'm serious, I am unaware of any feature from Vista that wasn't also present in 7. Please enlighten us.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_features_removed_in_Windows_7
However, it's not like Win7 didn't add new ****. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_7

A few days back I was able to lay my hands on a win8 laptop.
After a few minutes toying with it I came to the conclusion this version is completely oriented towards touch screens, and thus not usefull to me until I actually get a touch screen for my pc.
win7 I hug u 4eva.
Win8 Start screen is designed for touch screens. But apparently you failed to notice that you are not forced to use the Start screen. The old desktop (sans Start-menu) is still there.

« Last Edit: November 09, 2013, 09:45:36 am by Fury »

 

Offline jr2

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8.1 puts the Start button back, and changes its function to act as a switch between the Start screen and the Desktop.  At least, IIRC.  I saw it in action about a week ago, on a laptop upgraded from 8 to 8.1

 

Offline Rodo

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Re: I rage at you, Microsoft
A few days back I was able to lay my hands on a win8 laptop.
After a few minutes toying with it I came to the conclusion this version is completely oriented towards touch screens, and thus not usefull to me until I actually get a touch screen for my pc.
win7 I hug u 4eva.
Win8 Start screen is designed for touch screens. But apparently you failed to notice that you are not forced to use the Start screen. The old desktop (sans Start-menu) is still there.

You underestimate my toying habilities. I did notice the possibility to change to desktop by moving the mouse to the left side, or access the "advanced" menu from the right side, I just think it's a horrible design IMO.

Not changing to win 8.1 anyways. No matter how good ppl say it is my first impression was "hey! what you know... another crappy windows" and I'm not about to change my opinion until win7 is dead and buried in a cold forgotten trench.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2013, 01:43:14 pm by Rodo »
el hombre vicio...

 

Offline Fury

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You underestimate my toying habilities. I did notice the possibility to change to desktop by moving the mouse to the left side, or access the "advanced" menu from the right side, I just think it's a horrible design IMO.
No argument there.

Not changing to win 8.1 anyways. No matter how good ppl say it is my first impression was "hey! what you know... another crappy windows" and I'm not about to change my opinion until win7 is dead and buried in a cold forgotten trench.
Making Windows 7 out to be another Windows XP is only going to create more problems than it solves. Windows 8(.1) is a huge disappointment to a lot of people and I get that. But I seriously hope MS gets its **** together in Windows 9 or whatever it will be called. Otherwise we certainly will have another Windows XP in our hands and that's going to be a pain in the butt 10 years down in the line. That said, it's exactly this kind of attitude from people that annoys me even more than MS's shenanigans in designing their OS's.

  

Offline Luis Dias

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"I seriously hope MS gets its **** together in Windows [NEXT VERSION]"

Where the **** did I hear this before? It sounds SO familiar.